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Can anyone tell me what make and age of this cylinder recently purchased. Unfortunately I have no box or lid.

From what I was able to find, 1910 --

https://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/sear ... linder7011

OrthoFan

It's made of blue celluloid like the Blue Amberols. Indestructible did issue a few blue cylinders. edisonplayer.

It is indeed an Albany Indestructible. If I remember correctly, an Indestructible, Oxford or Lakeside box would be correct for it. The blue ones are not nearly as common.

Steve

Seconding OrthoFan--Made 1910.

These often shrink and your Model H might skip a tiny bit. I liked playing them with the Diamond C reproducer.

Charles F

Thank you for your replies. I did find it has shrunk but managed to play 95% on a Standard, with H reproducer. It fits on my BO, with 6" mandrel so will try it with the indestructible reproducer and should play all the way
Brian

The Patent Date of July 29, 1902 is a long and honorable one, first appearing on hollow pink (and then black) Lambert celluloid cylinders. The improvement details involved making the cylinder AND the rim in one fell swoop - the original molding technique applied the rims separately!

We now call these black (and sometimes blue) cylinders, with tapered cardboard and metal-ring interiors, 'Albany Indestructibles' - because that's where most of them were made from 1907-1922 (done in by a fire).

The company even issued a language set (instructional) for wishful speakers of Gaelic, and some for Fortune-Telling Machines.

Back copies of The Antique Phonograph (the Society Magazine) have a lot on information on its interesting history.

The Patent Date was still being used on the records after it had expired (1902+17=1919). What did the customers know?

Allen