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Strange Black Amberol-- Extra Recording at End of Song

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:49 pm
by outune
Hi All-- I'm getting ready to list some nice 4 min Wax Amberols and I was playing them through to check them out.

#24-- Sword of Bunker Hill is sung by the Knickerbocker Quartet-- It's a pretty stoic song--

BUT

After the song ended, I let the cylinder run.. About 15 seconds after the end of the song, there is a bunch of laughing, hollering, etc. This goes on for 10 or 15 seconds-- then another pause and there is more laughing and shouting. I can't make out what is being said-- but the guys are definitely having fun. Perhaps it's the quartet cutting up? There's a slight difference in the appearance of those final grooves-- See pics.

If anyone else has #24, could I ask you to play the last 45 seconds or so and see if other copies have the same "encore"?
Has anyone else run into extraneous talking, laughing, etc on a production cylinder?

Thanks!
Brad Abell
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Re: Strange Black Amberol-- Extra Recording at End of Song

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:50 pm
by Inigo
could be a home recording made by the owners over the empty part of the cylinder? I used to make experimental recordings on the runout grooves of my 45rpm singles when young...

Re: Strange Black Amberol-- Extra Recording at End of Song

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:56 pm
by TinfoilPhono
I've encountered quite a few brown wax cylinders with home recordings in the blank areas at each end of a commercial recording. It's certainly possible that someone did the same with a 4-minute recorder on your wax Amberol. Why waste perfectly usable blank space? Or at least that must have been the thought process back then.

Re: Strange Black Amberol-- Extra Recording at End of Song

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:24 pm
by AudioAntique
Brad-
It looks like you have a premium cylinder with bonus material recorded at the end. My recording has dead air at he end. (Just reproducer tracks to the end.)

Rob Rolfs

Re: Strange Black Amberol-- Extra Recording at End of Song

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:36 pm
by outune
Thanks everyone--- The home recording does sound plausible-- It really is just some laughing and whooping-- Words are spoken but my old ears can't understand it :)

And Rob-- Your "bonus material" theory may have legs-- but I bet there's no royalties on laughing and yelling :)

Brad