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FOUND: Edison script Decal for a Gem
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:01 pm
by Roaring20s
I know and agree that Phonodecal is the best, but I've failed twice.
This is what I need ... just on a thicker, easier to handle water slide material.
https://www.phonodecal.com/shop/phonogr ... e-pre-1907
Frustrated.
James.
Re: WANTED: Edison script Decal for a Gem
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:52 pm
by outune
John Nagy phonographs.org has what you need. $6
Brad Abell
Re: WANTED: Edison script Decal for a Gem
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:58 pm
by Curt A
Pre-cut metallic ink decals:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274732758940?h ... SwSF9gW-34
We also innovate by making machine Precut watersides with professional cuts of the film, so you do not need to be a skilled or expert person in order to get professional results.
NOW IMPROVED WITH RESIN INKS
PRINTED with big format professional machines.
RESIN against WAX (use by Alps printers):
RESIN:
1) Satin to shiny finish
2) The print is anti scratch. You can't damage it unless you tear the film.
3) Colors are intense.
4) White covers very well the background, even if it's black.
5) Resin is UV resistant.
WAX:
1) Dull finish
2) The print is not fix, you can damage the print by passing your nail over it.
3) Colors are more translucent.
4) White is too translucent, does not hide very well the background.
5) Wax printers can not pre cut a water slide decal.

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Re: WANTED: Edison script Decal for a Gem
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:26 pm
by Roaring20s
Thank you both!
It's the final detail to finish that project.
James.
Re: WANTED: Edison script Decal for a Gem
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:12 pm
by Ripduf1
Hi James,
I have had success using Gregg Clines decals. Available at
https://www.phonodecal.com/.
Super thin you are hard pressed to know its a decal when you follow the instructions.
John
Re: WANTED: Edison script Decal for a Gem
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:22 pm
by Roaring20s
Ripduf1 wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:12 pm
Hi James,
I have had success using Gregg Clines decals. Available at
https://www.phonodecal.com/.
Super thin you are hard pressed to know its a decal when you follow the instructions.
John
I have a gentle touch and patience, I guess they are just too delicate for me.
I will use him again for other decals as needed, but his project has options. I tried the old adage, "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again" first, and then the idiom about not wanting to bang your head against a brick wall".
James.
Re: FOUND: Edison script Decal for a Gem
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:14 am
by zonophpones7
I just saw this thread and wanted to weigh in. First, I guarantee the decals to work. If they fail, I will replace them no charge. I am interested in what happens when they fail. Do they tear, fall into pieces, not release from the paper? I have installed so many of these and they usually just slide off the paper and you adjust the position blot and done. Are you placing the decal paper and all in place , then sliding the paper out from under the decal? If trying to remove it from the paper then place it will Likely fail. I have directions on the website. If you haven't read them, they can be a big help. Here is a link.
https://www.phonodecal.com/blog/how-to-apply-decals . Please contact me directly and I will be happy to troubleshoot with you and replace a defective decal.
Re: WANTED: Edison script Decal for a Gem
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:47 am
by zonophpones7
Curt A wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:58 pm
Pre-cut metallic ink decals:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274732758940?h ... SwSF9gW-34
We also innovate by making machine Precut watersides with professional cuts of the film, so you do not need to be a skilled or expert person in order to get professional results.
NOW IMPROVED WITH RESIN INKS
PRINTED with big format professional machines.
RESIN against WAX (use by Alps printers):
RESIN:
1) Satin to shiny finish
2) The print is anti scratch. You can't damage it unless you tear the film.
3) Colors are intense.
4) White covers very well the background, even if it's black.
5) Resin is UV resistant.
WAX:
1) Dull finish
2) The print is not fix, you can damage the print by passing your nail over it.
3) Colors are more translucent.
4) White is too translucent, does not hide very well the background.
5) Wax printers can not pre cut a water slide decal.
Screenshot 2023-11-13 at 5.57.18 PM.png
I just wanted to respond to this post regarding the quality of my decals. I have not used this persons product, however I am sure they work fine. It is unfortunate that in his ebay listings he needs to attack my product to try and sell his. The primary things that contrasts his offerings from mine is his limited catalog of available decals and that his decals look BRAND NEW. This is great if that is the look you are shooting for on your finished project, and to many that is the goal. However, you will always know that it is a new decal. He advertises the colors are intense, when is the last time you saw a 120 year old decal that had intense color. they also are shipped from Peru and take 3-4 weeks to arrive. I make my decals sharp and clear but to look credible and authentic survivor. My goal is to have a restoration with no apologies. The white background I use has never been a problem in any installation I have done. I use metallic gold and silver inks as well. I make the bedplate decals look as if they are painted on. Each corner decoration is a copy of an original hand painted one. The decals do scratch easily, that is why I recommend clear coating them after installation. Being pre-cut doesn't seem to be much of a benefit to me either. You simply cut around the decal, place in warm water and install. I have complete installation instructions on my website.
https://www.phonodecal.com/ .The decals are guaranteed to work, or I will replace them no charge.
Please contact me if you have any questions or comments.
Gregg Cline
phonodecal.com
Re: WANTED: Edison script Decal for a Gem
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:04 pm
by gramophone-georg
zonophpones7 wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:47 am
Curt A wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:58 pm
Pre-cut metallic ink decals:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274732758940?h ... SwSF9gW-34
We also innovate by making machine Precut watersides with professional cuts of the film, so you do not need to be a skilled or expert person in order to get professional results.
NOW IMPROVED WITH RESIN INKS
PRINTED with big format professional machines.
RESIN against WAX (use by Alps printers):
RESIN:
1) Satin to shiny finish
2) The print is anti scratch. You can't damage it unless you tear the film.
3) Colors are intense.
4) White covers very well the background, even if it's black.
5) Resin is UV resistant.
WAX:
1) Dull finish
2) The print is not fix, you can damage the print by passing your nail over it.
3) Colors are more translucent.
4) White is too translucent, does not hide very well the background.
5) Wax printers can not pre cut a water slide decal.
Screenshot 2023-11-13 at 5.57.18 PM.png
I just wanted to respond to this post regarding the quality of my decals. I have not used this persons product, however I am sure they work fine. It is unfortunate that in his ebay listings he needs to attack my product to try and sell his. The primary things that contrasts his offerings from mine is his limited catalog of available decals and that his decals look BRAND NEW. This is great if that is the look you are shooting for on your finished project, and to many that is the goal. However, you will always know that it is a new decal. He advertises the colors are intense, when is the last time you saw a 120 year old decal that had intense color. they also are shipped from Peru and take 3-4 weeks to arrive. I make my decals sharp and clear but to look credible and authentic survivor. My goal is to have a restoration with no apologies. The white background I use has never been a problem in any installation I have done. I use metallic gold and silver inks as well. I make the bedplate decals look as if they are painted on. Each corner decoration is a copy of an original hand painted one. The decals do scratch easily, that is why I recommend clear coating them after installation. Being pre-cut doesn't seem to be much of a benefit to me either. You simply cut around the decal, place in warm water and install. I have complete installation instructions on my website.
https://www.phonodecal.com/ .The decals are guaranteed to work, or I will replace them no charge.
Please contact me if you have any questions or comments.
Gregg Cline
phonodecal.com
I have used decals from both Gregg and Eduardo. I have been quite pleased with both. I looked at that listing pretty closely and I don't see where there is any attack, though. That doesn't sound like Eduardo's usual business practice.
Re: FOUND: Edison script Decal for a Gem
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:27 pm
by Curt A
I have used both, as well, and got good results. I was just offering an alternative, since that was what was asked for.
The language in my post is a direct quote from Eduardo's eBay listing, not my opinion. I have known Gregg for years and the quality of his decals is impeccable. I will purchase them again, when needed. As with anything, reading instructions and following them is a necessity...