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I noticed that this gramophone sold for £ 505 plus postage and thought that this was a high amount.

There were also 13 bidders - which indicates a high level, (perhaps unusually high), of interest.

Was there something special or unusual about this 101 ?

Thanks as always for any help you can give.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235308999144 ... R773rKqDYw

I do not seen anything special in that 101. Someone paid too much for a relatively common machine in less than pristine conditions, with its rexine falling off on the seams.

It's actually in quite an appalling condition with rexine all lifted off from the bottom, cracked soundbox etc so worth no more than £50 on a good day. The 101 is incredibly common. On one day I counted no less than 30 for sale on UK Ebay alone. It's only £450 over-priced!

What were the bidders thinking? I have seen better examples than this sell for under £100.
£500+ would buy a very good Tropical Teak 101, if you could find one for sale.

Well, it's good to know that I didn't miss anything.

Thanks 'everyone' for confirming.

It still seems very odd, oh well ..................

poodling around wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:11 am I noticed that this gramophone sold for £ 505 plus postage and thought that this was a high amount.

There were also 13 bidders - which indicates a high level, (perhaps unusually high), of interest.

Was there something special or unusual about this 101 ?

Thanks as always for any help you can give.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235308999144 ... R773rKqDYw

Wow, with that price, I will sell my Electrola 106 (German version of HMV 101).

Watanabehi, Electrola 106 (12/1934), 106U (5/1936), and 106UP (11/1936) was a series of models designed and manufactured by Electrola in Germany. Totally different and has no involment by HMV England. Electrola 101 (1926-31) is a version of 101 for German market manufactured by HMV in England.

Jaso wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:15 pm Watanabehi, Electrola 106 (12/1934), 106U (5/1936), and 106UP (11/1936) was a series of models designed and manufactured by Electrola in Germany. Totally different and has no involment by HMV England. Electrola 101 (1926-31) is a version of 101 for German market manufactured by HMV in England.

This is my Electrola. Would you specify which model this Electrola is? Thanks.

Jaso wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:15 pm Watanabehi, Electrola 106 (12/1934), 106U (5/1936), and 106UP (11/1936) was a series of models designed and manufactured by Electrola in Germany. Totally different and has no involment by HMV England. Electrola 101 (1926-31) is a version of 101 for German market manufactured by HMV in England.

Here is the Electrola 106R which I owned some years ago, hence the pre-digital image.
Clearly inspired by HMV, it was basically the "works" of a late 101 housed in a 102 case.
It had a No.4A soundbox and pegs for a record tray which was missing.

The biggest difference between Electrola 106 series and earlier 101&102 is the fact that HMV seemed to have stopped supplying machines and parts to Germany by then (was it because of the import tariffs by Nazi Germany?) and the 106 was all German design utilizing various surplus HMV parts. Some of the early side winding 106 still had HMV motors, later ones German made ones. All the front wind U&UP had the beautiful Dual-motors from the start. Most of the metal parts were manufactured by Brandenburgische Metallwarenfabrik after they run out of UK made parts and I believe the wide bore 4A was made by Electrola’s sister company Lindström. My 1937 106UP still has English made Pakawa handle parts. Interesting also that the 4A:s I have still sport pliable and usable orange rubber seels vs totally hardened HMV ones.

Watanabehi’s standard 101 looks to me like a late 1928/early 1929 E or F Model.