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Can a cracked brown wax cylinder be played?

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:57 pm
by pogopete
Hello! I am new to this board and phonograph collecting as well.

I recently got an Edison Home Phonograph, and was wondering if I could safely play a cracked brown wax cylinder on in just once to hear and record the contents of it. I am mostly concerned that doing this will somehow damage the reproducer, as the crack is more than a hairline.

Should I do it? And if not, if there way to repair the cylinder?

Thanks!

Re: Can a cracked brown wax cylinder be played?

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:23 am
by JerryVan
It's not a good idea. Aside from possible damage to the stylus, the edges of the crack will be "hammered" by the stylus and further chipped away. Besides that, sliding it onto the taper will most likely spread the crack and break the cylinder further. There is a guy who repairs cracked cylinders. My understanding is, it's not cheap. So, such repairs are usually reserved for valuable cylinders. Therefore, the conundrum, if you can't play it, how do you know if it's desirable and worth repairing?

Re: Can a cracked brown wax cylinder be played?

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:16 pm
by 52089
Tinfoil.com used to offer a cylinder transfer service. I don't know if it's still available but you could try them. Good luck in any case.

Re: Can a cracked brown wax cylinder be played?

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 1:48 am
by FredSugarHall_fan
JerryVan wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:23 am It's not a good idea. Aside from possible damage to the stylus, the edges of the crack will be "hammered" by the stylus and further chipped away. Besides that, sliding it onto the taper will most likely spread the crack and break the cylinder further. There is a guy who repairs cracked cylinders. My understanding is, it's not cheap. So, such repairs are usually reserved for valuable cylinders. Therefore, the conundrum, if you can't play it, how do you know if it's desirable and worth repairing?
Thank you for the warning, although I really wish I'd looked at this thread a day earlier. Just tonight, I played my lone brown wax cylinder on my Edison Standard. It already had a deep crack down one side, and when I played it, the crack spread to the other side of the cylinder. I feel really stupid especially since it is brown wax and could be a unique recording. Granted it hasn't fallen apart yet but I certainly will NOT be playing it any time soon. I hope that other people out there will see this thread so that way nobody makes the same mistake I did tonight.

Re: Can a cracked brown wax cylinder be played?

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:57 am
by pogopete
JerryVan wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:23 am It's not a good idea. Aside from possible damage to the stylus, the edges of the crack will be "hammered" by the stylus and further chipped away. Besides that, sliding it onto the taper will most likely spread the crack and break the cylinder further. There is a guy who repairs cracked cylinders. My understanding is, it's not cheap. So, such repairs are usually reserved for valuable cylinders. Therefore, the conundrum, if you can't play it, how do you know if it's desirable and worth repairing?
Thank you very much for the information!

Re: Can a cracked brown wax cylinder be played?

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:11 pm
by phonograph guy3435
I've seen a website that uses a laser without actually touching the cylinder and it plays the brown wax cylinder fine. the video on the website has almost ¼ of the cylinder gone. I'll try to link the website below.
i don't know if the URL will work so just copy paste it into the URL bar.


https://www.endpointaudio.com/endpoint-cylinder-machine