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A real heartbreak to see
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:46 pm
by gramophone78
I have seen many things that have made me sad that were ruined by a careless hand but, this is a real shame

. What would have been a very clean and straight Berliner funnel horn. Now, a useless mess. To add further injury, it is being sold with a Vic #2

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Re: A real heartbreak to see
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:02 pm
by solophoneman
Can you post a link to the sale?
Re: A real heartbreak to see
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:20 pm
by Henry
No doubt a skilled tinsmith could rebuild/restore these pieces into one useable, and attractive, whole.
Re: A real heartbreak to see
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:05 pm
by Phonofreak
I saw that item on ebay. I wonder why people do things like that. I hope that horn can be repaired.
Harvey Kravitz
Re: A real heartbreak to see
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:21 pm
by oldtvsandtoys
Heres a link to the set. If it don't work its item # 270718447396
http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Victor-II-T ... 3f0813af24
Re: A real heartbreak to see
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:54 pm
by De Soto Frank
( Showing my ignorance here ) - the machine itself looks like a promising "back-mount" Victor, but that horn appears to be of front-mount configuration ?
I can't tell from the listing pics - did the horn get cut into two sections, or did it break apart at a solder-joint ?
Re: A real heartbreak to see
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:53 pm
by OrthoFan
De Soto Frank wrote:( Showing my ignorance here ) - the machine itself looks like a promising "back-mount" Victor, but that horn appears to be of front-mount configuration ?
I can't tell from the listing pics - did the horn get cut into two sections, or did it break apart at a solder-joint ?
That's a horn, probably from the mid-to-late 1890s, used on the very early Berliner models, including the "Improved Gramophone."
Some photos of a complete horn appear on this page --
http://www.wyattsmusical.com/pictures.html
Also
http://www.intertique.com/BerlinerHandCrankID.html
(Click on images for blow-up photos)
From the looks of it, the horn was cut for god knows what reason!
Re: A real heartbreak to see
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:33 am
by gramophone78
Yes, it is sad to say that what would have been a great horn has been hack sawed into two......

. I almost want to cry. Now, I see it is no longer being sold with the Vic 2. The seller now thinks it is still big $$$$$. Even if you were to get it back together.....it would still be a repaired horn and I'm not sure that it could be done very good anyway. Maybe the past onwer was trying to make it fit the Vic 2?????. I mean a horn is a horn....no????....

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Re: A real heartbreak to see
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:35 am
by De Soto Frank
Or someone needed a funnel...

Re: A real heartbreak to see
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:42 am
by JohnM
gramophone78 wrote:I mean a horn is a horn....no????....

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Only if it's on a "Victrola"!