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I'm hoping someone can help identify this cylinder. Thanks in advance.

Jerry B.

This is an international indestructible record made in England and almost all are pirated Edison releases with a re dubbed announcement of "international Phonograph/ Phonogram" if you can find the same title and performers on the Edison 2 min list it will probably match up.
The company was based in Liverpool and probably used to import the newest Edison records from the USA before the UK dealers were allowed to release them and seems to have been able to have molded copies on the market at at same time as the Edison official release.
The copyright on recordings did not come in to law in the UK until 1912 and this was being done in the 1903-1907 era.

possibly this was the master copy
http://www.library.ucsb.edu/OBJID/Cylinder4177

Recordmaker, Thanks very much for your reply. I have a fair number of empty English cylinder boxes. Do you know what their boxes looked like?

Thanks again,
Jerry B.

I will have a look

I don't have an example although I do have several of the records, the tubes for these I have seen are unusual as they have a pressed tin plated steel base (embossed with a company name I think) in the card tube.