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Looking for Diamond Needles

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:51 am
by Andrew Reed
Hello,

I am looking for diamond needles for my gramophone. I recently acquired an HMV 4047E and would like to upgrade or replace the current needles to improve sound quality and ensure proper maintenance of my 78 rpm records.

If anyone has information on where I can find authentic diamond needles or suitable alternatives, or if you have any recommendations on specific brands or suppliers, I would greatly appreciate your help.

Thank you in advance!

Re: Looking for Diamond Needles

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:01 am
by VanEpsFan1914
Diamond needles don't play well with an acoustic gramophone. You might want to try fiber or thorn instead.

Re: Looking for Diamond Needles

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:38 am
by Andrew Reed
so I shouldn't try shapir or tungsten needle ?

in fact all I want is juste to not have to change the needle anytime I want a record.

Re: Looking for Diamond Needles

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:52 am
by jamiegramo
Tungsten needles are the only option if you don’t want to keep changing the needle. Diamond and sapphire (jewel tipped) needles will damage your records on an acoustic machine.

Fibre or thorn needles will help preserve your records but do require resharpening after every play.

Re: Looking for Diamond Needles

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:57 am
by Andrew Reed
so from what I understand from what you said, I should t take the tungsten one? that's right?

Re: Looking for Diamond Needles

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:20 am
by jamiegramo
Tungsten needles are a little controversial. I made some a few years ago and I found them excellent on well-tracking machines but not so good on poor tracking machines. Folks will have different opinions on them.

The problem is getting hold of them as they’re no longer made. You would have to look on eBay.

Re: Looking for Diamond Needles

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:18 am
by Andrew Reed
thanks, I will try tungsten needle

Re: Looking for Diamond Needles

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:44 am
by Marco Gilardetti
An intermediate option are the "long play needles", that may play up to ten sides. These also are no longer made, and have to be searched on eBay or elsewhere. It's a bit tricky as many sellers today refill genuine period tins with new needles (of variable quality...) so you might not know what you're really getting, unless you already are a needle expert.

In any case, whichever type of reusable needle will increase record wear in one way or another. On the other hand, use-only-once needles of very high quality are still manufactured today and are easily available at very reasonable prices. Changing the needle with each record is part of the gramophone experience and, on my side, I suggest you to do so.

Re: Looking for Diamond Needles

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:33 pm
by Inigo
It is the needle that wears out and not the record, so disposable needles are better for your records than permanent ones.
Besides that, the good design of the tonearm and good leveling and tracking, and a good soundbox, are a must if you want your records to last many plays.