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Burmese Colour Needle in the groove!

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:41 am
by IainP1
The depth of field here is about 7mm and it's a focus stack composite of 720 separate microscope images, so each image was taken after advancing the focal point by an average of just 10 µm (microns) at a time.
I hadn't realised how flat the grooves are at the bottom of the groove, or just how dirty they are too, and this was giving the record a thorough wipe down beforehand.

The music is When It's Springtime in the Rockies by C. D. Smart on a Wurlitzer organ, released October 1930, if you wanted to know!

Iain
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Re: Burmese Colour Needle in the groove!

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:41 am
by Orchorsol
Astounding and fabulous again, thank you so much Iain!

Re: Burmese Colour Needle in the groove!

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:51 am
by Lah Ca
Wow! Wonderful work with the camera, microscope and computer!

Thank you!

Re: Burmese Colour Needle in the groove!

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:59 am
by JerryVan
I find it very interesting how the contour of one side of the groove does not match the contour of the other side. Or perhaps I'm not identifying the peaks & valleys correctly?

Re: Burmese Colour Needle in the groove!

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:09 pm
by Inigo
Yes, it is a bit strange, and the needle seems to be riding half way at the groove wall... Maybe it's an effect created by the image composition

Re: Burmese Colour Needle in the groove!

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:16 pm
by jamiegramo
Yes I wonder if the point is sitting in the groove or is actually between grooves?

Re: Burmese Colour Needle in the groove!

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:02 am
by Hoodoo
Yes, the needle is sitting on the flat area between grooves. The light lines are the grooves and, to me, look like they are showing wear at the bottom, or maybe that is just dust/debris.
Below are a couple images from the web of 78s close up.
There has to be a relatively wide area between grooves so loud, high amplitude passages don’t encroach on the adjacent groove wall.

Re: Burmese Colour Needle in the groove!

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:01 pm
by CharliePhono
As old as this technology is, analog recording still amazes me. "Squiggles" that produce sound, from a single piano or human voice to a full orchestra . . .

Re: Burmese Colour Needle in the groove!

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:09 pm
by Inigo
Certainly... I'm also thinking always on this. Being so simple old Egyptians could have invented it 6,000 years ago...

Re: Burmese Colour Needle in the groove!

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:19 am
by IainP1
Thanks for the comments guys. I should say, the needle and record was under the microscope and the needle was not "in play" rather was just supported there with a homemade mechanism including miniature clothes pegs, so sorry if it's created confusion!
Having read the above, I'll try again, and with some different needles too, and with the needle fitted correctly into the soundbox and arm , if I can find enough space to work with.
Iain