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Butterfly Leonard Markels Motor
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:09 am
by Path-4ward
Has anyone seen one of these phonograph motors before? I’m missing the intermediate gear, any thoughts on how I could find a replacement? The intermediate gear is present in the picture but has since been lost…
I think these were manufactured around 1918.
Re: Butterfly Leonard Markels Motor
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:12 am
by JerryVan
Which intermediate gear is missing? The winding intermediate, with the bevel gear, or the driving one, that powers the spindle shaft?
Re: Butterfly Leonard Markels Motor
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:02 pm
by Path-4ward
Good question- it’s the one powering the spindle shaft - the driving intermediate- it looks very similar to some other models but I doubt they’re interchangeable (granted, my knowledge in this department is minimal).
Re: Butterfly Leonard Markels Motor
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:29 pm
by JerryVan
You're right, it does look similar to gears in other motors, but then a lot of motors used similar designs, most likely with slight differences, however. I've got to say, I've been in this for a long time and have never heard of that make of motor. Unless it's a rebadged version of a more common motor, you may have a hard time sourcing that gear shaft. A new gear shaft could be made, but the phonograph in question would have to be worth it.
Re: Butterfly Leonard Markels Motor
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:44 pm
by phonogfp
For an off-brand motor like this, I'd recommend contacting George Vollema:
http://www.victroladoctor.com/
George P.
Re: Butterfly Leonard Markels Motor
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:26 pm
by Path-4ward

It’s funny you should mention George Vollema, it sure sounds like he’s the man to consult- I emailed him this am and he got right back with me - per GV:
“I can not recall ever having seen a motor brand like yours and while some features of other manufactures motors look similar I do not know if any parts would actually be interchangeable with yours”
I’ll ship it to him in the spring to see what can be done.
Re: Butterfly Leonard Markels Motor
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:58 pm
by phonogfp
That's exactly what I'd do too. Best of luck!
George P.