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Mystery front-mount machine
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 pm
by Zenger
I assume this is a Victor R (sorry, this is the only picture I have), but a few things look off, most notably the metal horn support. Is it possible this is something else, or is it definitely a Royal?
Re: Mystery front-mount machine
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:34 pm
by JerryVan
It's a Model R. And the engine under it is a Model T, (but you probably knew that).
Some R's have stamped metal arms like that. Others will know the finer details and time frames.
Re: Mystery front-mount machine
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:58 pm
by outune
Looks legit to me- The metal arm is a "Gibson" arm-- They were used on some "R" and "E" machines-- (I've had both)- Perhaps other machines as well that others here can ID.
Brad Abell
Re: Mystery front-mount machine
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:02 pm
by jamiegramo
I believe the metal travelling arm, known as a Gibson arm, is more unusual than wood and suggests this is a later machine.
Re: Mystery front-mount machine
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:04 pm
by outune
Here is a link to an earlier discussion of the Gibson arm. In it I pictured the E I sold a few years back-- Another member commented that the Gibson arm was rarer to find on an R or a P than on the E.
viewtopic.php?p=351256&hilit=gibson+arm#p351256
Brad Abell
Re: Mystery front-mount machine
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:46 pm
by Zenger
Thanks, everyone! Very interesting, especially about the Gibson arm. I'm happy to have this machine. Would the Exhibition reproducer have been a later "upgrade"?
(And yes -- that is a Modet T engine!)
Re: Mystery front-mount machine
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:00 pm
by Phono-Phan
Very Nice!!!! It should clean up pretty nicely. Post pictures of it cleaned up. It's a bonus that it came with the crank. The R cranks are hard to come by. Some of the R models came with an Exhibition Jr. reproducer. Just a little bit smaller in diameter.
Re: Mystery front-mount machine
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:10 pm
by VanEpsFan1914
Nothing cuter than a Victor R. And the Model-T engine is also neat; did you get any Ford parts or is this in your garage?
Re: Mystery front-mount machine
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:47 pm
by Zenger
No, not my garage, and I didn't get any Ford parts, but it's nearby, so PM me if there's something specific you're looking for.
Re: Mystery front-mount machine
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:01 pm
by pallophotophone
"OXFORD" An ancient collection (dust, dirt and cobwebs) of Oxford and other cylinders?