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Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:59 am**

“On This Day in the History of Recorded Sound…”

April 8, 1913: Peter Weber was granted U.S. Design Patent No.1,058,284 on “Phonograph.” This was offered from 1909 (in slightly refined form) as the Edison Cygnet horn.

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Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:36 am**

phonogfp wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:59 am “On This Day in the History of Recorded Sound…”

April 8, 1913: Peter Weber was granted U.S. Design Patent No.1,058,284 on “Phonograph.” This was offered from 1909 (in slightly refined form) as the Edison Cygnet horn.

#antiquephonographsociety #phonograph #gramophone #antique

Webercygnethorn001.jpg

I know I'm being lazy in asking this, versus researching it, but I'll ask anyway, did Edison refer these horns as "Cygnet" horns, or is that part of collector vernacular?

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:40 pm**

They were called "Cygnet Horns" in Edison catalogs and throughout period Edison literature. You can't go wrong with this label!

George P.

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2025 2:11 pm**

Thank you, George.

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2025 9:22 pm**

You bet!

Posted: **Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:29 pm**

I find it interesting that the design patent is different from what was actually produced.
Dave D

Posted: **Wed Apr 09, 2025 5:07 pm**

Just to clarify, this is a Utility Patent rather than a Design Patent. It was (is?) common to have the production item differ slightly from the Utility Patent drawings. Here are just a few examples: