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Have a German Klingsor portable gramophone. Need a crank handle! Motor is a Vorwerk 25BK that has a crank receptacle with bar (see pic) for a tubular split crank that is similar to a Thorens crank.

Britt Abbott
Midlothian, VA

if you have a spare gramophone winding handle, with a dimensioned drawing I could build a motor fixing for you

Britt,

You may already know this, but the orientation of the reproducer, and its location on the left side of the turntable, are both incorrect to properly play a record. Apologies if you were already aware.

Thanks for replies. I'm hoping to find an original Klingsor, or even a photo of what one looks like. If I can't find an original, then I'll fabricate one from another similar looking gramophone crank. I was actually looking at an old Bell and Howell motion camera crank that has the split crank that looks like it would work. Also, a Thorens crank might work well.

The photo was taken when I first received the gramophone. Soundbox was adjusted after photo was taken.

Some Aeolian Vocalion winding handles/cranks for Thorens-made motors might work, depending on (if and if if) how snugly the sleeve on the end of the crank shaft fits inside the socket sleeve on the end of the shaft off the motor.

The Aeolian cranks are not split shaft but split sleeve. The sleeve goes over the shaft off the motor. But the concept is sort of the same. If the crank sleeve fits inside the socket sleeve on your motor shaft, it might work for you.

I can measure one of mine if you like.
End of Motor Shaft:
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"Oh, sorry! You said Kling.. what?"

Yes, if you measure the diameter of your Vocalian sleeved, or what I call tubular, I could probably make one work if the diameter will fit in the hole of the case and into the motor receiver. I've tried several European sources, but no one seems to have a Klingsor crank and the Thorens with this style are hard to find.

wbaradio wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 11:33 am Yes, if you measure the diameter of your Vocalian sleeved, or what I call tubular, I could probably make one work if the diameter will fit in the hole of the case and into the motor receiver. I've tried several European sources, but no one seems to have a Klingsor crank and the Thorens with this style are hard to find.

OD of tube is about 14.5 mm.

Length of sleeve/tube is about 15.5 cm.

Throw from approximate center of tube to furthest extent of Bakelite (?) handle is about 11 cm.