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The listing says it’s a Victor VV-VI , I have a VV-VI but it’s an internal horn phonograph with two doors. Was there an exterior horn VV-VI? Or is this a frankenphone? Thanks for any help
Dan

It's a cobbled together VV-VI made to look like it should use an external horn. I tried finding the listing again on FB but could not find it. I've seen it for sale for a while. There was never a factory released external horn version of the VV-VI.

Doug

Thanks Doug , that’s what I thought, it’s on the Live Auction, it just didn’t look right.
Dan

What it is, is a mess. Run away!!!!

Steve

DanP58 wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 12:23 pm Thanks Doug , that’s what I thought, it’s on the Live Auction, it just didn’t look right.
Dan

You're very welcome, Dan. And...yes...that's where I saw it. I knew that I'd seen it for a while.

Doug

Yes, it's junk, but the horn may be something good. Hard to tell from the picture above.

A 1913 model. May be of some interest for folks who want early versions of machines.

JerryVan wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:17 pm Yes, it's junk, but the horn may be something good. Hard to tell from the picture above.

Unfortunately, I’m afraid even the horn may be ruined. I count eight panels, so I’m thinking it’s an Edison Gem horn. At the very least, it has two screw holes in it that shouldn’t be there. I’m afraid to see a photo of the small end. I’m betting it’s been cut off, and who knows how the reproducer is attached?

Steve

For anyone interested, here is a better picture of the horn. On close inspection using the zoom function one can see that the horn may be homemade (perhaps from paper mache) with (I'm guessing) a black rubber hose section permanently bent (presumably by heat) for the 90 degree "elbow". The gold striping on the horn was clearly made by a somewhat unsteady hand. For what it's worth, whomever made the horn was pretty clever.

Doug