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Amberola marked Type SM Model B1
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 10:43 pm
by shopdoc
Is there any way to figure out the roman numeral model of my dad's floor model amberola that is marked Type SM Model B1 serial number 4950? I saw an earlier post that made me think it might be III
Re: Amberola marked Type SM Model B1
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:23 pm
by Homestead
Greetings...that sounds like the Amberola B1 or 1B as some call it. The A1 was a combination 2/4 minute player, and was belt driven. It is very desirable due to the fact that it is the only Amberola to play 2 minute cylinders. It originally came with the Model L reproducer and later the M (2/4 minute type, like the Model O). The B1 was strictly a 4 minute machine with an Opera type works. Usually found with the Diamond A reproducer for Blue Amberols, but with the L reproducer it could play the 4 minute wax Amberol cylinders. Both of these machines are wonderful. I own a B1 and just love the Edison decal in the lid....IMHO the best one Edison ever had. You can learn about the 1A and 1B on YouTube, and their differences. All the best to you! James Manker
Re: Amberola marked Type SM Model B1
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:31 pm
by shopdoc
Homestead wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:23 pm
Greetings...that sounds like the Amberola B1 or 1B as some call it. The A1 was a combination 2/4 minute player, and was belt driven. It is very desirable due to the fact that it is the only Amberola to play 2 minute cylinders. It originally came with the Model L reproducer and later the M (2/4 minute type, like the Model O). The B1 was strictly a 4 minute machine with an Opera type works. Usually found with the Diamond A reproducer for Blue Amberols, but with the L reproducer it could play the 4 minute wax Amberol cylinders. Both of these machines are wonderful. I own a B1 and just love the Edison decal in the lid....IMHO the best one Edison ever had. You can learn about the 1A and 1B on YouTube, and their differences. All the best to you! James Manker
Thank you for the info. If I understand correctly, this was a model that wasn't part of the roman numeral series? Clearly I have a lot to learn.
Re: Amberola marked Type SM Model B1
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:17 am
by JerryVan
You have received some excellent advice. As an added tip, posting photos of the item in question will make it much easier to help you in your future requests for information.
Re: Amberola marked Type SM Model B1
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 10:16 am
by shopdoc
JerryVan wrote: Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:17 am
You have received some excellent advice. As an added tip, posting photos of the item in question will make it much easier to help you in your future requests for information.
I know a picture is worth a thousand words, but when working from a list while the phonographs are 300 miles away, the expertise of the kind folks here is priceless. In retrospect, taking pictures while we were making the list would have been ideal. But the sheer number was overwhelming until I had them in a list and could start figuring out what was there.
Re: Amberola marked Type SM Model B1
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 10:22 am
by JerryVan
shopdoc wrote: Sat Oct 04, 2025 10:16 am
JerryVan wrote: Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:17 am
You have received some excellent advice. As an added tip, posting photos of the item in question will make it much easier to help you in your future requests for information.
I know a picture is worth a thousand words, but when working from a list while the phonographs are 300 miles away, the expertise of the kind folks here is priceless. In retrospect, taking pictures while we were making the list would have been ideal. But the sheer number was overwhelming until I had them in a list and could start figuring out what was there.
Yes, very understandable.

Re: Amberola marked Type SM Model B1
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:32 am
by shopdoc
Homestead wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:23 pm
Greetings...that sounds like the Amberola B1 or 1B as some call it. The A1 was a combination 2/4 minute player, and was belt driven. It is very desirable due to the fact that it is the only Amberola to play 2 minute cylinders. It originally came with the Model L reproducer and later the M (2/4 minute type, like the Model O). The B1 was strictly a 4 minute machine with an Opera type works. Usually found with the Diamond A reproducer for Blue Amberols, but with the L reproducer it could play the 4 minute wax Amberol cylinders. Both of these machines are wonderful. I own a B1 and just love the Edison decal in the lid....IMHO the best one Edison ever had. You can learn about the 1A and 1B on YouTube, and their differences. All the best to you! James Manker
You have me very curious about what dad's actually looks like. Growing up with a roomfull of them, and anybody who came to the door getting invited in to listen (really, even the mormon missionaries), I really didn't think of them individually. Especially since we weren't allowed to touch them. Next weekend will be the first time I ever play one myself.
Re: Amberola marked Type SM Model B1
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:53 pm
by drh
shopdoc wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 10:43 pm
Is there any way to figure out the roman numeral model of my dad's floor model amberola that is marked Type SM Model B1 serial number 4950? I saw an earlier post that made me think it might be III
In case it will help narrow things down, the Amberola III had a distinctive cabinet, being like a table model on stilts with a shelf below. It was the same one Edison issued for the A and B 150 diamond disc machines. You can see some photos of the Amberola I variants and the Amberola III here:
https://phonographcompany.com/project_category/edison/
Re: Amberola marked Type SM Model B1
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 11:40 pm
by shopdoc
drh wrote: Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:53 pm
shopdoc wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 10:43 pm
Is there any way to figure out the roman numeral model of my dad's floor model amberola that is marked Type SM Model B1 serial number 4950? I saw an earlier post that made me think it might be III
In case it will help narrow things down, the Amberola III had a distinctive cabinet, being like a table model on stilts with a shelf below. It was the same one Edison issued for the A and B 150 diamond disc machines. You can see some photos of the Amberola I variants and the Amberola III here:
https://phonographcompany.com/project_category/edison/
Thank you!