Page 1 of 1

Thank you for the help on the history/would like option on $

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:47 pm
by paulmitchell
I WANT TO FIRST THANK EVERYONE WHO VIEWED AND REPONDED TO MY POSTING. HAD A HARD TIME UPLOADING MY PICTURES BUT HERE THEY ARE. IM INTERESTED IN SELLING THIS MACHINE BUT FROM THE INITIAL RESPONSE, SOUNDS LIKE IT DOES NOT CARRY MUCH VALUE DUE TO THE MASS PRODUCTION OF THE GRAMOPHONES IN THE 1920S. ANY HELP WITH PRICE SOMEONE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PLACE ON THIS WOULD BE OF GREAT HELP TO START MARKETING. THANKS AGAIN FOR THE INFO. PREVIOUSLY.

PAUL- CHEERS FROM COLORADO SPRINGS, CO


I currently have a Coronet gramophone and have no idea of the value. It in a stand-up cabinet. I thing it was produced in the 1920 but not sure. Search the internet for a couple of hours and can not find anything on a coronet. It has a plate on the inside that reads it was sold by the Heaton Gramophone Salon. 45 Heaton road, Newcastle. Its in good shape and still works. Please help Thanks, Paul

Re: anyone that can help me with history/value of my gramoph

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:28 am
by estott
It is impossible to be certain without pictures, but your gramophone is most probably a cabinet model from the 1920's. Many small companies were in the business and most would fit British built cabinets with parts bought from other sources- often Swiss parts.

Re: Thank you for the help on the history/would like option on $

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:25 pm
by David Spanovich
Hi Paul:

Please see my response to your earlier questions here -- http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... f=2&t=7776

If the components are original to the cabinet, this definitely dates from the late 1920s/early 1930s. (The swan neck tonearm is a dead giveaway.)

All of the components I see in the photos are of the generic type supplied by Swiss manufacturers, and the cabinet looks like an inexpensive "period" design.

The horn, itself, looks well designed, albeit rusty in the corners. If the sound box is restored with fresh gaskets--and the corrosion taken care of--it should sound okay, though not on par with the quality models produced by HMV, Victor, Columbia, etc.

I've seen "asking prices" ranging between $150-$300 for similar off-brand models in the US. The UK market may be a different story. In fact, I know that many British collectors do not find these budget off brand models at all interesting. Awhile back, in fact, a well-known UK based collector posted a YouTube video of a similar looking cabinet model being burned in his backyard. Apparently, the components were shot, and the cabinet infested with wormwood--a common problem I understand, in certain parts of the UK.

HTH,
DS

Re: Thank you for the help on the history/would like option on $

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:13 am
by TinfoilPhono
Unfortunately these generic machines have two problems when it comes to marketing them: lack of collector interest, and expensive shipping. Because so few people care about them, values are very low. But they are so bulky and heavy that shipping even a short distance can cost as much as the machine itself. This pretty much limits the potential market to local buyers who can arrange to pick it up in person. Needless to say that rules out broader markets like eBay.

Re: Thank you for the help on the history/would like option on $

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:35 pm
by gramophoneshane
David Spanovich wrote: All of the components I see in the photos are of the generic type supplied by Swiss manufacturers, and the cabinet looks like an inexpensive "period" design.
Actually, the motor (turntable, speed control & crank) are British, made by Garrard.

Re: Thank you for the help on the history/would like option on $

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:14 pm
by David Spanovich
gramophoneshane wrote:
David Spanovich wrote: All of the components I see in the photos are of the generic type supplied by Swiss manufacturers, and the cabinet looks like an inexpensive "period" design.
Actually, the motor (turntable, speed control & crank) are British, made by Garrard.

Hi Shane:

Many thanks. My bad. Hopefully, the OP will see that. Fortunately, he didn't mention anything about the components when he put it up for sale on Craigslist -- http://cosprings.craigslist.org/clt/2805320276.html
craigslist coronet gramophone ad.JPG
craigslist coronet gramophone ad.JPG (84.25 KiB) Viewed 844 times
------------------------------------------------------

EDITED -- Jan. 19, 2012 --
Shane, I see the information you provided has been added to the ad since I responded yesterday.

Re: Thank you for the help on the history/would like option on $

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:15 pm
by estott
I wish him good luck.
This similar machine has been on Ebay for months- maybe a year- at a reasonable price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Oak-Ful ... 3a6f6d2118