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Hi everyone, Im Horacio, from Uruguay South America. Im new in this forum. The reason i got in this forum is because i proposed myself fixing the VV 4-3 Victrola of my grandma. When i first opened it i found many loose springs, the governor springs were broken and the weights are missing. I already mailed George for the governor springs and weights. But im very confused, i found the following


4 big springs and a smaller spring, they have a cone-like shape.What are they for?? where do they go??
As my grandma told me, my uncle wanted to fix it, he couldnt and left it disassembled.
I will be glad to hear any recomendations, instructiones,etc from you. Meanwhile i will be researching some.

Hope i can fix it.

Here's a photo showing the parts from a disassembled two spring Victor motor, of the type used in the Consolette--


FROM -- http://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/vie ... p?t=130431
(The governor is still in position.)

As you can see, no springs of the type you found in the cabinet.

I take it this just has a conventional sliding lid support lever--


-- as described on this page -- http://www.victor-victrola.com/lid%20Support%202.htm ?

On the larger models, a double, spring loaded lid support was used --



--but I don't think the Consolette was ever fitted with that.

I'd guess the four springs you found were from some other project your uncle may have been working on.

By the way, if you don't already have a copy, you might want to invest in "The Compleat Talking Machine," by Eric Reiss (That's the way "complete" is spelled in the title, by the way.) The book is full of illustrations and walks you through most repairs. The book is available from most well-stocked sellers including Amazon.com.

Good luck with your project.

DS

My Edison Triumph has springs like that between the bedplate and motor.
Dave Jolley

Discman wrote:My Edison Triumph has springs like that between the bedplate and motor.
Dave Jolley

Hi Dave:

Victor used thick felt washers to isolate the motors from the motor-board--or at least, that's what was installed on the Consolette.

It's possible that the springs could have come from an Edison model, or perhaps some other phonograph's turntable of a later design.

DS

Horacio wrote:4 big springs and a smaller spring, they have a cone-like shape.What are they for?? where do they go??

Those springs do not go with the machine.
Some additional information regarding the VV4-3

those springs look like the kind of springs used on a modern electric turntable. The kind that go underneath the corners with a bolt that runs through them to ad some shock absorbtion to the platter assembly board.