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Can anyone help me identify these parts?
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:28 pm
by Confettihead
These came in a box when i purchased a Edison C250 today. The box was marked "Victrola Parts" which may or may not mean it goes to a Victrola and not the machine it came with. Any advice is appreciated. If it goes with a machine I do not own and you can use this part, I'd happily trade it for Diamond Discs.
Re: Can anyone help me identify these parts?
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:49 pm
by Jerry B.
Congratulations, that's an adaptor to play regular (lateral cut) 78s on your Diamond Disk. Jerry Blais
Re: Can anyone help me identify these parts?
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:44 am
by Confettihead
Thats what I was hoping...but I think its damaged in a way that I cannot attach it. You can see the broken piece on the top of the tube, there also appears to be a small piece broken off on the other side of the reproducer and it is missin the thumb screw for the needle. Can anyone post a photo of an undamaged tube and the other side of the reproducer?
Re: Can anyone help me identify these parts?
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:25 pm
by FloridaClay
Provided the pot metal has not swolen to the point where it won't fit anymore, I don't think the chip out above where the pin sticks out would make any difference. That looks like the end that should slide up inside the DD's "tone arm" (horn end really). The reporducer would fit on the other end in the usual fashion.
Clay
Re: Can anyone help me identify these parts?
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:46 pm
by Guest
Once you remove your Edison reproducer, your Kenton attachment No.1 should slide in, with the pin at the 9 o'clock position, and then turn the knurled lock nut on the horn to keep it in place.
You might as well throw that reproducer. It's not original to your Kentone adaptor, and these reproducers were made by Paillard of Switzerland in the late 20s using pretty poor quality pot metal. The metal swells & cracks, and as they rivoted together, you cant open them to replace gaskets, and you'll probably find it rattles terribly while in use.
If you cant find a Kent reproducer, a Victor Exhibition, no. 2 & no.4 will all fit the attachment, as will most other reproducers that have a bayonet fitting in the regular size. Vic Orthos wont fit however, without an adaptor to reduce the throat of the reproducer to the correct size.
Re: Can anyone help me identify these parts?
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:14 pm
by dutchman
I have one these also and your unit should fit right up the Edison DD despite the missing piece as previously stated. I have the KENT reproducer as well and its on its way to George V. for a new gasket.
Re: Can anyone help me identify these parts?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:10 am
by estott
You can also attach a Victor Exhibition soundbox to these. Kent originally sold these without reproducers and directed you to use a Victor soundbox, but Victor got quite angry. Kent then supplied their own soundboxes- but kept the bayonet fitting.
Re: Can anyone help me identify these parts?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:57 am
by Confettihead
It seems that the portion of the adapter that slides into the Edison bayonet fitting has swollen to a point where it will not insert at all. I guess both parts are somewhat useless to me.
Re: Can anyone help me identify these parts?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:30 pm
by estott
Confettihead wrote:It seems that the portion of the adapter that slides into the Edison bayonet fitting has swollen to a point where it will not insert at all. I guess both parts are somewhat useless to me.
You can get a file and some wet sandpaper and try reducing the swelling- this thing isn't so valuable that some work will devalue it.
Re: Can anyone help me identify these parts?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:51 pm
by VintageTechnologies
estott wrote:Confettihead wrote:It seems that the portion of the adapter that slides into the Edison bayonet fitting has swollen to a point where it will not insert at all. I guess both parts are somewhat useless to me.
You can get a file and some wet sandpaper and try reducing the swelling- this thing isn't so valuable that some work will devalue it.
I had the same swelling problem with a pot-metal Fletcher adapter. I removed the bayonet pin from the fletcher, then wrapped some medium sandpaper around the swollen end and gave it enough twists to sand it down. Forty years later, I am still using that adapter.