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 Post subject: What Edison Console is this?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:36 pm 
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I tired to link this but couldn't get it to work. There is a console Edison I can't find the book, is something odd about this machine or what is it?

eBay Item #220475829476

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 Post subject: Re: What Edison Console is this?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:44 am 
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Appears to be a "georgeous" William and Mary. Someone has replaced the grill but done a pretty good job at it.


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 Post subject: Re: What Edison Console is this?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:46 am 
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Actually, the William and Mary (upright and console) are distinct for having that X-bottom.

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(image lovingly borrowed from http://www.misterphonograph.com :D )

I can't seem to think offhand what model it would be though. It looks like when they re-did this machine, they wiped out the Edison logo that would appear over the turntable.


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 Post subject: Re: What Edison Console is this?
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You're right Phonophan79. The WMC should have the "x bottom". (it appears you have a very nice one btw.

Everything else in this case points to this being a WMC but I cannot explain the legs either. They look like they are from a long play.

Best would be to ask the seller what the SN tag says. That would help alot.


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 Post subject: Re: What Edison Console is this?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:56 am 
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phonophan79,

Thanks for sharing that photo of Matt’s—not only is it a nice image of the machine, but I think that I like his grille cloth better. :D

That’s a very attractive console.

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 Post subject: Re: What Edison Console is this?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:27 am 
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The x-'bottom' is called a stretcher (regardless of shape) in furniture parlance.

The seller does say that the "woodwork was restored". Perhaps that is when liberties were taken with the cabinet.

He really thinks he has something there, doen't he? Ignorant of Diamond Disc machine values, I'd say!

UPDATE: I emailed the seller re: what is stamped into the data plate, and just received a reply. It is a W&M Console, or at least, began life as one.
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 Post subject: Re: What Edison Console is this?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:36 am 
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Thanks for the links and the comments. Yes I thought too it was some version of the william and mary console, of which I have a soft spot for having it been my first edison years ago. But those legs as well as the grill are sure not correct. I thought it was possible that it was an odd attempt at a machine that never got off the ground. I only thought that due to the reasonably good quality of the grill and legs. After studying it again, I now realize that they must have had a machine with broken legs and well as grill that was mostly missing and copied the edges of the design, but when it came to the middle they were at a loss as to how to proceed and came up with those rather thick sections which no victrola used in their grill that I can find.

The legs are also something like the long play, but on a more careful look I see they do resemble them but are not as fine a design with less detail and the shape is pretty much straight down whereas the long plays are taper to various degrees. A lot of trouble for as John said, a not very valuable machine.


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