I recently acquired a mahogany C-250 phonograph with an automatic stop and serial number 48150. Does anyone know the year it was made based on the serial number?
Thanks,
AR
Year of my C-250 Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph
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Re: Year of my C-250 Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph
Do you mean a Duncan Automatic Stop? According to Frow, those were first supplied with the C-250 around April 1917.
Also, what sort of patent plate does it have: black background with silver lettering, or gold background with black or white lettering?
Bill
Also, what sort of patent plate does it have: black background with silver lettering, or gold background with black or white lettering?
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Re: Year of my C-250 Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph
Adolfo, have you not read my responses in several of your previous posts? The information you seek can be found by the public at the Antique Phonograph Society's website under the Articles section, titled "Introductory". Here's the link to my production date estimations: http://www.antiquephono.org/edison-c-25 ... -1925-pdf/apruizii wrote:I recently acquired a mahogany C-250 phonograph with an automatic stop and serial number 48150. Does anyone know the year it was made based on the serial number?
Thanks,
AR
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Fran
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Re: Year of my C-250 Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph
Fran,
Yes, I have read your responses to my previous posts and once again am very grateful for the wealth of information that you have provided me especially with the articles relating to the EAS and don't recall or may have missed any reference to production date estimations.
Thanks for pointing me to your article on production date estimations. However, I'm getting an "Epic 404 - Article not found" message and can't access the article. Do I have to be a member of the APS to have access?
Thanks,
AR
Yes, I have read your responses to my previous posts and once again am very grateful for the wealth of information that you have provided me especially with the articles relating to the EAS and don't recall or may have missed any reference to production date estimations.
Thanks for pointing me to your article on production date estimations. However, I'm getting an "Epic 404 - Article not found" message and can't access the article. Do I have to be a member of the APS to have access?
Thanks,
AR
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Re: Year of my C-250 Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph
Hmm, I don't think so, Adolfo, and I'm sorry for the issue. I'm not signed into the site, and don't have any trouble with the link. I understand that the Introductory Articles are open for the general public to view, so I don't know why you're having trouble. I wonder if there's a problem with your browser settings, or something with the site?apruizii wrote:Fran,
Yes, I have read your responses to my previous posts and once again am very grateful for the wealth of information that you have provided me especially with the articles relating to the EAS and don't recall or may have missed any reference to production date estimations.
Thanks for pointing me to your article on production date estimations. However, I'm getting an "Epic 404 - Article not found" message and can't access the article. Do I have to be a member of the APS to have access?
Thanks,
AR
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than myself in such matters can offer up an answer.
In the meantime, try this link to the website, find the "Articles" tab, click on it, then click on the tab "Introductory", and the first article that pops up should be my date estimates. I sincerely hope the information is still publically available.
In the meantime, (I wasn't trying to overcomplicate things, honestly), I estimate your C 250 as having been produced around the end of January, 1918.
Best,
Fran
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Re: Year of my C-250 Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph
Fran,
The rest of the articles in the Articles/Introductory open up fine after clicking on "Read More". However, when I click on "Read More" for yours I get the the first page followed by the two links at the bottom of the page to your two articles. And then when I click on any of the two links I get the "Epic 404 - Article not found" message. It may be a server error with the site. I'll try accessing your articles later to see if the problem has been resolved. I'm curious to know if any other members have experienced the same error.
AR
The rest of the articles in the Articles/Introductory open up fine after clicking on "Read More". However, when I click on "Read More" for yours I get the the first page followed by the two links at the bottom of the page to your two articles. And then when I click on any of the two links I get the "Epic 404 - Article not found" message. It may be a server error with the site. I'll try accessing your articles later to see if the problem has been resolved. I'm curious to know if any other members have experienced the same error.
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Re: Year of my C-250 Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph
I'm very sorry for that. Hopefully one of the great minds of the APS website front end will chime in.apruizii wrote:Fran,
The rest of the articles in the Articles/Introductory open up fine after clicking on "Read More". However, when I click on "Read More" for yours I get the the first page followed by the two links at the bottom of the page to your two articles. And then when I click on any of the two links I get the "Epic 404 - Article not found" message. It may be a server error with the site. I'll try accessing your articles later to see if the problem has been resolved. I'm curious to know if any other members have experienced the same error.
AR
Fran
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Re: Year of my C-250 Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph
Bill,
Thanks for the information. Yes I'm referring to the Duncan Automatic Stop, also referred to as the Edison "Electric Automatic Stop" (EAS). And the patent plate is black background with silver lettering.
Based on some previous cursory research on the internet my C-250 was probably manufactured sometime during 1918 or 1919. I was just trying to narrow the date and based on Fran's response to my post he has an article that indicates it was probably manufactured around the end of January 1918.
I'll have to get a copy of Frow's phonograph book for reference.
AR
Thanks for the information. Yes I'm referring to the Duncan Automatic Stop, also referred to as the Edison "Electric Automatic Stop" (EAS). And the patent plate is black background with silver lettering.
Based on some previous cursory research on the internet my C-250 was probably manufactured sometime during 1918 or 1919. I was just trying to narrow the date and based on Fran's response to my post he has an article that indicates it was probably manufactured around the end of January 1918.
I'll have to get a copy of Frow's phonograph book for reference.
AR
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Re: Year of my C-250 Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph
Fran,
I contacted the APS via email to inquire about my access issue. And a Board member made a modification to the site and now I have no issues accessing the two spreadsheets. I can see how you determined the manufacture date estimate of my C250 to be late January 1918. These are great spreadsheets for reference. Thanks for making them public!!
AR
I contacted the APS via email to inquire about my access issue. And a Board member made a modification to the site and now I have no issues accessing the two spreadsheets. I can see how you determined the manufacture date estimate of my C250 to be late January 1918. These are great spreadsheets for reference. Thanks for making them public!!
AR
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Re: Year of my C-250 Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph
That's fantastic! I'm happy to hear the problem was rectified, and you're very welcome, it was my pleasure compiling the research for the project.apruizii wrote:Fran,
I contacted the APS via email to inquire about my access issue. And a Board member made a modification to the site and now I have no issues accessing the two spreadsheets. I can see how you determined the manufacture date estimate of my C250 to be late January 1918. These are great spreadsheets for reference. Thanks for making them public!!
AR
If you think that data is nice, you should read the 4-part series I wrote.

Best,
Fran
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