Removing Victor II worm gear

[dogman5]

Hello,
Does anybody know how to remove the worm gear that the governor weights attach to on a Victor II? I removed the two screws underneath it and have tapped it with a rubber mallet, but it has not moved at all. Do I have to remove any other parts? Thanks,
Brian

[Player-Tone]

I am a little confused, are you trying to remove the whole governor from the motor or just the worm gear from the governor (removing the weights)? A picture may be helpful if possible.

[dogman5]

I am trying to remove the gear that is horizontal in the picture. A screw broke off in the smaller ring and I am trying to get it off to re tap the hole.

[Player-Tone]

Ah, I see. Well, it looks like all the set screws have been removed so it is probably just stuck with age- I would recommend using some penetrating oil on the parts and letting it sit for a couple minutes, hopefully that would loosen it up enough to come out.

[VintageTechnologies]

So as I understand the problem, the bearing pins that the governor shaft rotates on are frozen in the stanchions. The set screws appear to be removed from the stanchions, so it should not take much to break the frozen pins loose, to then pull them apart, freeing the governor shaft. I assume you already dropped some penetrating oil down the set screw holes and allowed them a couple days to soak.

A rubber or plastic hammer won't work - use a small steel hammer and a brass punch to gently tap-tap-tap the pins until the pins and shaft move a bit. You might also tap from the opposite side, to shift the pins and shaft back and forth a couple times to loosen things up. Then a pair of pliers should be able to extract the pins without scarring them. You may notice after extracting the pins that one of them has a groove to realign the pin under the set screw when you reassemble. I'm not sure if all Victor models have that, but some do. If so, just remember which side that pin came from.

You may find it easier to buy a new brass ring than trying to drill out and re-tap the buggered hole.

[JerryVan]

With all due respect, do not use a hammer at all. Grab the protruding outer end of the bearing with a plier while LIGHTLY heating the top of the stanchion with a small torch. It won't take much heat to melt the dried up oil & grease that has the end bearings stuck in place. With a pulling & twisting motion on the end bearing, it should come loose easily. Hammering will result in a broken stanchion.

[dogman5]

I threw some Break Free on it and let is soak for a couple of hours. I was then able to gently knock it out with a rubber mallet. Thanks for the info on the flat side of the pin. I always keep everything on the same side and same place it came from. I will be taking it to Heids Music to get the hole re tapped, and then the restoration is complete. Thanks for all the help,
Brian

[VintageTechnologies]

With all due respect, do not use a hammer at all. Grab the protruding outer end of the bearing with a plier while LIGHTLY heating the top of the stanchion with a small torch. It won't take much heat to melt the dried up oil & grease that has the end bearings stuck in place. With a pulling & twisting motion on the end bearing, it should come loose easily. Hammering will result in a broken stanchion.

Yes, of course it would, if you hit it too hard. I suggested a light tap-tap-tap, not a WHAM! I know how brittle cast iron is and have cautioned about that on other posts. I've tapped the pins loose on lots of Edisons and a few Victors over the years without breaking anything, but using the torch is good a suggestion that I'll try next time.