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Horny Victor Machines
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Edisone
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Horny Victor Machines
The offer of a 1923 Victrola advertising pamphlet made me think of this: According to several sources, open-horn Victor machines were made & sold well into the 1920s .... but I wonder: how did anyone KNOW about them? Are there any catalogues, pamphlets, ads, etc showing Victor horn machines post "Victrola Craze" years?
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gramophone78
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Re: Horny Victor Machines
Other than a couple exceptions...all later external horn Victor's (post 1920) were made and sold for exportation.Edisone wrote:The offer of a 1923 Victrola advertising pamphlet made me think of this: According to several sources, open-horn Victor machines were made & sold well into the 1920s .... but I wonder: how did anyone KNOW about them? Are there any catalogues, pamphlets, ads, etc showing Victor horn machines post "Victrola Craze" years?
Mexico and Latin American countries as well as South America were the main markets.
Therefore, you would not see these in North American catalogs.
Not quite sure why "horny" is in your thread title...??. Unless you meant to type "horn".
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Edisone
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Re: Horny Victor Machines
I'd better change that title. Thanks so much.gramophone78 wrote: Not quite sure why "horny" is in your thread title...??. Unless you meant to type "horn".
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Re: Horny Victor Machines
I have a U.S. pamphlet dated May 5, 1917 that illustrates/describes the Victor Junior, 0, and the I through V series (the V being available in mahogany or oak). This is the latest U.S. sales brochure for Victor's external horn line I've seen, but perhaps there are others.
George P.
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gramophone78
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Re: Horny Victor Machines
Although not a pamphlet, our late mahogany Victor V has a last date of 1918 on the bottom label. So, it post dates 1917.
Mind you, the machine was discovered in Mexico and therefore could be considered an export model. The assumption by most is....Victor was wanting to use up remaining external horn components. Since the North American market no longer wanted these antiquated models. Other countries (as mentioned) still had a viable market.
It is interesting to note..... Victor started to blend Victrola parts into models the later they were made and as parts ran out.
Our Victor V is completely comprised of Victrola parts. Only the back bracket/horn and case design are remnants of their former glory.
Most have a aluminum data plate's and are usually marked.... V-0,V-1,V-11,V-111,etc... Our Victor V is marked V-V.
Mind you, the machine was discovered in Mexico and therefore could be considered an export model. The assumption by most is....Victor was wanting to use up remaining external horn components. Since the North American market no longer wanted these antiquated models. Other countries (as mentioned) still had a viable market.
It is interesting to note..... Victor started to blend Victrola parts into models the later they were made and as parts ran out.
Our Victor V is completely comprised of Victrola parts. Only the back bracket/horn and case design are remnants of their former glory.
Most have a aluminum data plate's and are usually marked.... V-0,V-1,V-11,V-111,etc... Our Victor V is marked V-V.
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VintageTechnologies
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Re: Horny Victor Machines
Ummm....'cuz Victors like to reproduce?gramophone78 wrote:Not quite sure why "horny" is in your thread title...??.
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Re: Horny Victor Machines
Of course they do, that's why they have reproducers... 
"The phonograph is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
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Phonofreak
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Re: Horny Victor Machines
George, Can you be so kind as to post the brochure? I sure would like to see it.
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phonogfp wrote:I have a U.S. pamphlet dated May 5, 1917 that illustrates/describes the Victor Junior, 0, and the I through V series (the V being available in mahogany or oak). This is the latest U.S. sales brochure for Victor's external horn line I've seen, but perhaps there are others.
George P.
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tinovanderzwan
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Re: Horny Victor Machines
i don't know we phono collectors are drawn to phonofairs like a perv to a pornsiteEdisone wrote:I'd better change that title. Thanks so much.gramophone78 wrote: Not quite sure why "horny" is in your thread title...??. Unless you meant to type "horn".
and then all those books full of pictures to drool on... AARW! a AMET ECHOPHONE!!!
oh well! i gues some of you guys had a stack of national geographics at home when you where a kid and not for the scenic landscape's!!
but seriously a sight of a rare phono still gives me butterfies in my tummy and im sure you're the same
so the titel horny victor machines might not be such a bad titel afterall i think a lot of phono's are very horny indeed!!
photo below
wich one is better babe or phono?
(fake phono sadly)
greetings
tino
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Re: Horny Victor Machines
I vote for the babe...
I've had a couple of requests to show the 1917 Victor brochure I mentioned earlier in this thread. This brochure is 5 panels long, and my scanner can't accommodate that size, but I'll show the best parts. If I scan the long way, I must go in and rotate 90 degrees, and for some reason this makes the file too big to upload. I can barely show 3 panels, but I don't want to bend the paper the wrong way, so I'm afraid this is the best I can do. You can see all the models, but I should mention that the V has a Victrola-like automatic brake that doesn't show in the scan.
George P.
I've had a couple of requests to show the 1917 Victor brochure I mentioned earlier in this thread. This brochure is 5 panels long, and my scanner can't accommodate that size, but I'll show the best parts. If I scan the long way, I must go in and rotate 90 degrees, and for some reason this makes the file too big to upload. I can barely show 3 panels, but I don't want to bend the paper the wrong way, so I'm afraid this is the best I can do. You can see all the models, but I should mention that the V has a Victrola-like automatic brake that doesn't show in the scan.
George P.
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