Victor III's (Specifically Type B) No One Owns One?

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Victor III's (Specifically Type B) No One Owns One?

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Does any one own a late model III with pressed turntable and friction brake that they can share a photo of? Wishing to learn where the brake properly belongs. Maybe this version of the III is too rare?

I am working on a Victor III Type B Cabinet (the 14 ⅛ square one). Some of these had cast iron turntables and some had pressed turntables. What is curious on this particular cabinet is that the motor board shows signs of having had the "round brake"(and absolutely no sign of a barrel or friction brake which I think would have been normal).

Have any of you ever run across a Victor III with a round brake (the kind typically found on Victor's lessor machines)?

The cabinet I have has a quad cut style motor in it which makes me lean toward putting a pressed turntable with it along with a friction brake (as I suspect round brakes are very hard to find).

One question I have is for a Victor III with Friction brake should it go in the front left where the barrel brakes are normally found or does it belong in the back right? I assume someone out there must have such a machine and can tell me how yours are configured in this regard.

This cabinet came with a late model aluminum serial number tag which is in poor condition. I have considered stripping and repainting. I know this works well with the older brass plates where the raised portions are more pronounced then the later aluminum ones. Has anyone had success repainting aluminum ones or is that a path best not traveled? It doesn't really belong with this cabinet but may use for the time being anyway until I come across a brass one with a more appropriate serial number range.
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Victor III Type B no sign of bullet or friction brake but markings from a round brake
Victor III Type B no sign of bullet or friction brake but markings from a round brake
Aluminum Tag very late model III
Aluminum Tag very late model III

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Re: Victor III's (Specifically Type B) No One Owns One?

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No one has one of these? I know they are not the most common variant but there must be some lurking out there some place. No?

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Couch Potato wrote:No one has one of these? I know they are not the most common variant but there must be some lurking out there some place. No?
I know member "USlakeside" was selling a very late Vic. III like yours a while back. You can see a brake (like yours) is located on the back corner, same side as the speed control. You may want to PM him..??.

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... III#p72214

These very late made models used various Victrola parts (like your brake) as time went on. Most of these models were shiped to other countries like Mexico or South America. Some were sold in North America.

I found about 12 in a room once in Mexico.

BTW, if you ask George P, he may send you a copy of the late Vic. III from his 1917 catalog... ;).

Hope this helps.

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Thank you!

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