My question was originally to have been, as follows:
My understanding is that these were produced from 1912 to 1929, and the date is frequently on the cylinder.
For example:
23001 Poet and Peasant Overture N.M. Band. Thomas A Edison [Signature] 13. Meaning this was manufactured in 1913.
However, I researched cylinder 23001, and noted it was released in 1910 as a Blue Amberol. So, then, what does the 13 mean?
My question was supposed to have inquired that, if 13 means 1913, what does it mean when a cylinder has only one digit, such as 2641, I Didn't Raise My Boy to be a Soldier. Jaudas Society Orchestra, with a single number 9.
So what do these digits mean, 9 or 13, or otherwise, single digit or two digit sequence?
Blue Amberol date of manufacture question
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Re: Blue Amberol date of manufacture question
The 13 (or 9 or any other number after "Pat'd") is the mold number, not the date of recording.orpington wrote:My question was originally to have been, as follows:
My understanding is that these were produced from 1912 to 1929, and the date is frequently on the cylinder.
For example:
23001 Poet and Peasant Overture N.M. Band. Thomas A Edison [Signature] 13. Meaning this was manufactured in 1913.
However, I researched cylinder 23001, and noted it was released in 1910 as a Blue Amberol. So, then, what does the 13 mean?
My question was supposed to have inquired that, if 13 means 1913, what does it mean when a cylinder has only one digit, such as 2641, I Didn't Raise My Boy to be a Soldier. Jaudas Society Orchestra, with a single number 9.
So what do these digits mean, 9 or 13, or otherwise, single digit or two digit sequence?
Also of interest, the number of dots after "Pat'd" is the "take" number, so "Pat'd." is take 1, "Pat'd..." is take 3, etc.
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Re: Blue Amberol date of manufacture question
You will also find this thread to be of interest.
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... f=3&t=8722
Alan Sutton's Blue Amberol book provides very specific information about every Blue Amberol record ever released.
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... f=3&t=8722
Alan Sutton's Blue Amberol book provides very specific information about every Blue Amberol record ever released.
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Re: Blue Amberol date of manufacture question
It is also worth noting that quite a number of titles originally issued as 4 minute wax Amberols were later moulded in celluloid and reissued as Blue Amberols. These include the Peter Dawson titles in the 23000 British Series.
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Re: Blue Amberol date of manufacture question
Elsewhere on the forum, you can find a link to a spreadsheet of Edison recordings, both disc and cylinder. It has stood me in good stead for some time...
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Re: Blue Amberol date of manufacture question
As stated above, The number of dots is the "take" number, and the number after is the "mold" or "master mold" number.
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