Buy the phonograph Victor IV

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Andreas Gramophones
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Buy the phonograph Victor IV

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Friends forum, today bought a Victor IV number of 47738 series, in excellent condition, originality, was quite dirty but the engine was very beautiful, with no gaps or glitches in operation, it seems very little used, resale seal in Brazil is dated on May 22, 1915.
After cleaning appeared an incredible phonograph with all the sale of stamps and maintenance, original varnish, perfect working order.
The player is not fixing the rear rubber, I will buy one and so for now with a victrola number 2 player.
What caught my attention was the engine backing for phonograph transport, see photos, the question is whether the block is common to find or is rare?
I myself had never seen, even having some experience in Victor machines.
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I have never seen a shipping block for a Victor horn machine. Very interesting. I also love the Victor IV. It looks like a very late IV. Does the tone arm turn on ball bearing? The brake looks like one used on Victrolas. Overall, your Victor looks like a late horn machine which was made for export. I love it. Thanks for sharing. Jerry Blais

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What a nice find. It seems the Vic. IV was very popular in the Southern countries. I see a great many in Mexico. I think mahogany was more durable to the climate or the wood itself was more favorable ???.

As Jerry points out.....it is of later design utilizing the lever type brake arm.

The oak motor shipping blocks do come up for sale from time to time on Ebay. Certainly a nice little extra to display with your machine. Being simply a utilitarian device....many would have been discarded.

Congrats again on a great addition to your collection..... :D.

Andreas, check your email. I sent you a note.
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Nice find and you did an amazing job of cleaning it up. Can I ask what you did to the horn to make it look so good?

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Jerry B. wrote:I have never seen a shipping block for a Victor horn machine. Very interesting. I also love the Victor IV. It looks like a very late IV. Does the tone arm turn on ball bearing? The brake looks like one used on Victrolas. Overall, your Victor looks like a late horn machine which was made for export. I love it. Thanks for sharing. Jerry Blais
Jerry,
Also had not seen a transport block for motor, I think never left inside the case, today I will take pictures of seals and engine for you to enjoy.
Initially I thought would have to do a restore glaze over after cleaning I noticed a great craquelada and original color.
The serial number is a machine manufactured in 1914.

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Nice job cleaning up your Victor IV. Looks really good.
This is a picture of mine. Seeing yours I know my machine can look better.
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gramophone78 wrote:What a nice find. It seems the Vic. IV was very popular in the Southern countries. I see a great many in Mexico. I think mahogany was more durable to the climate or the wood itself was more favorable ???.

As Jerry points out.....it is of later design utilizing the lever type brake arm.

The oak motor shipping blocks due come up for sale from time to time on Ebay. Certainly a nice little extra to display with your machine. Being simply a utilitarian device....many would have been discarded.

Congrats again on a great addition to your collection..... :D.

Andreas, check your email. I sent you a note.
Wayne,

Thanks for the comment, here in Brazil we do not have many machines of the Victor production beginning, the ones I have bought in the United States, 1910 and before the machines are mostly mahogany here, this Victor IV even been here since new.
I agree that the transport block is a beautiful curiosity to show with the phonograph.
I read your email and I answered, when you need to tell me.

Andreas

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Bruce wrote:Nice find and you did an amazing job of cleaning it up. Can I ask what you did to the horn to make it look so good?

Bruce
Bruce,
I use a cleaning paste and then hydrate with cedar oil, the horn after cleaning with the same folder use glossy varnish.
So I preserve the original colors, rarely do some deeper change the original appearance, except for the case is golden oak or similar, in this case I do after blasting and beeswax.

Andreas

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Re: Buy the phonograph Victor IV

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What caught my attention was the engine backing for phonograph transport, see photos, the question is whether the block is common to find or is rare?
I myself had never seen, even having some experience in Victor machines.
This block is mentioned in some of the instruction books. I have a couple from Victor Vs.
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