WANTED: Zonophone Grand Concert Motor

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Sidewinder
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WANTED: Zonophone Grand Concert Motor

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Back in this Zonophone's history a previous owner replaced the original mechanics with a wood base board, and a more modern motor. Luckily most of the other hardware is present, including horn in its own basket.

Obviously I would like to take it back to how it should be :-), and would very much like to find a motor + turntable. It takes the very large Zonophone Grand Opera Motor. This is a German Zonophone version, model "Zonophon Grand Opera Luxus"

Please PM. Many thanks!
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Starkton
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Re: WANTED: Zonophone Grand Concert Motor

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Why do you believe it is a "Grand Opera Luxus"? The metal inlays on the case look different from the catalogue drawing. Is it a Zonophone at all? What is the size of the case?

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Re: WANTED: Zonophone Grand Concert Motor

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I think you are looking at the model Grand Opera Luxus 110 in the catalog. 110 has wood inlay? This is a 120.

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Re: WANTED: Zonophone Grand Concert Motor

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I have never heard of a "Grand Opera Luxus 120". It is not listed in the German Zonophon catalogue of September 1905. Do you have a drawing of it?

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Re: WANTED: Zonophone Grand Concert Motor

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Yes coincidentally I do have have a drawing of the Zonophone, drawn by my daughter about 2 weeks ago.

September 1905 was very late. 1901/1902 was when this model was in production - for a short time.

For the publishing copyright I think I have to buy her an Shaun the sheep DVD.

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Re: WANTED: Zonophone Grand Concert Motor

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OK, I tease!

I know of 1 in a French museum, and believe there is another in a German or Belgian collection. They were expensive and only for 1 season apparently. 1901/1902. In one of my boxes with ads - the particular one I do not find at the moment - it was referred to with the model number 120. In this ad, not.
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Re: WANTED: Zonophone Grand Concert Motor

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I have a zonophone motor that might work. Post you bedplate dimensions and crank location and I will check.
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Re: WANTED: Zonophone Grand Concert Motor

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The drawing from your daughter is lovely :-) I would frame it. She seems to be very impressed by the beautiful machine.

Thank you very much for the ad! I completely forgot about this model. It was first(?) shown in the Phonographische Zeitschrift of 5 November 1902. This is the only ad I could find. It is identical with yours. The accompanying text ("Zonophon-Herbst-Katalog") suggests that it was introduced in autumn 1902. It would be very helpful if you can locate an ad which proves the designation "Grand Opera Luxus No. 120". In the ad of November 1902, see below, it is not listed as such. The "Grand-Opera-Luxus-Zonophon No. 110" with different case was first(?) shown in an ad of 19 August 1903 and was still offered in the catalog of September 1905. Perhaps it replaced the earlier model which would explain its rarity.

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Re: WANTED: Zonophone Grand Concert Motor

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Phonomark wrote:I have a zonophone motor that might work. Post you bedplate dimensions and crank location and I will check.
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Hi, sent you a PM. Many thanks

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