"Monte Cristo" Blue Amberol 1768 Nice-sounding cylinder!

[barnettrp21122]

Here's a pretty cylinder I picked up at the recent Wayne NJ show.
I think it shows just how advanced Edison's recording techniques were compared to his competitors back in 1913-over a century ago! I hope you enjoy it!
Bob
"Monte Cristo" (Hungarian Waltz) Blue Amberol 1768, Recorded 1913
The Jorda-Rocabruna Instrumental Quintet

This sounds more impressive using a good speaker setup!

[youtubehd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obdJRSFJGGs[/youtubehd]

[Edisone]

What "take" does it indicate? I think I hear some slight differences from my copy. A beautiful recording - I don't think I hear a Stroh violin in there, either. Also a perfect test for flutter - I find piano, violin, harp and especially bells to be totally intolerable with any flutter. Beauty.... and thanks for sharing !

ps - Jorda-Rocabruna had several in the Mexican Series, which are not easy to find.

[barnettrp21122]

What "take" does it indicate? I think I hear some slight differences from my copy. A beautiful recording - I don't think I hear a Stroh violin in there, either. Also a perfect test for flutter - I find piano, violin, harp and especially bells to be totally intolerable with any flutter. Beauty.... and thanks for sharing !

ps - Jorda-Rocabruna had several in the Mexican Series, which are not easy to find.

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it! Here is the info on the cylinder rim-I have trouble remembering what the codes mean:
1768. Pat' D 11 (or maybe II)
Bob

[Lucius1958]

What "take" does it indicate? I think I hear some slight differences from my copy. A beautiful recording - I don't think I hear a Stroh violin in there, either. Also a perfect test for flutter - I find piano, violin, harp and especially bells to be totally intolerable with any flutter. Beauty.... and thanks for sharing !

ps - Jorda-Rocabruna had several in the Mexican Series, which are not easy to find.

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it! Here is the info on the cylinder rim-I have trouble remembering what the codes mean:
1768. Pat' D 11 (or maybe II)
Bob

The number of dots after"PAT'D" show the take number: the "11" means that the pressing was from mold #11.

Bill

[barnettrp21122]

What "take" does it indicate? I think I hear some slight differences from my copy. A beautiful recording - I don't think I hear a Stroh violin in there, either. Also a perfect test for flutter - I find piano, violin, harp and especially bells to be totally intolerable with any flutter. Beauty.... and thanks for sharing !

ps - Jorda-Rocabruna had several in the Mexican Series, which are not easy to find.

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it! Here is the info on the cylinder rim-I have trouble remembering what the codes mean:
1768. Pat' D 11 (or maybe II)
Bob

The number of dots after"PAT'D" show the take number: the "11" means that the pressing was from mold #11.

Bill

Thanks for the info! I had missed the dots. There are two of them, so it was take 2.
Looks like this was a very early mold too.
Bob
Bob

[edisonphonoworks]

This shows the superiority of the Edison recording method, partly vertical recording in general. A fantastic recording. Edison really had it right from 1912-1914 those direct BAs sound breathtaking enough that they impressed Author and Mastering Engineer Bob Katz to call me up excited about the dynamics and clarity of Southern Plantation Songs on BA and asked me what year it was recorded, and some questions about Edison's acoustic methods He said that he had run it through his mastering analyzer and it had a 100db output. While I have a similar recording body to this record. I still Would love to know the gaskets, and diaphragm used to make this record, I have been trying hundreds of things to get this sound, I hope to get there someday but the sensitivity is amazing on this recording, with the pizzicato strings so clear. Then the last acoustic Diamond discs, simply breathtakingly realistic sound. What I notice about Edison arrangements, is they sound more natural to me, as one would play live, while most lateral 78s of the acoustic era, sound specialized to the recording equipment, I know this bugs Victor fans but you Victor fans really need to listen to the Edison recording quality, though Victor and Brunswick laterals are very fine, with artists, the sound quality on the Edison's is much better.

[Valecnik]

Yea it's especially noticeable if you have a Victor and Edison in the same room and play a directly recorded Edison record of about the same era and same title, if possible with any laterally cut disc. The Edison wins hands down. Even more so if you do that with a Diamond Disc.