I have this rear mount Zonophone and have some questions about it. I have tried searching but I am still
at a loss as to what I have. I read and seen pictures that the Zonophone Parlor was made into a rear mount later in production. I also see and read a lot about the Zonophone Concert. My Phonograph resembles a late Parlor and a Concert.
In the pictures you see that the bedplate has the area for making this a front mount machine. I read that the factory was converting front mounts to rear mounts, so I assume what I have is correct? It has the original 9" turntable. Thoughts or comments would be great.
Thank You
Zonophone what model is this?
-
columbia1spring
- Victor II
- Posts: 433
- Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:17 am
- Personal Text: If I have no friends, then who’s reading this?
- Location: Central Florida
- phonogfp
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 8166
- Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:08 pm
- Personal Text: "If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will." - A. Lincoln
- Location: New York's Finger Lakes
Re: Zonophone what model is this?
Your machine is a Zonophone Concert. The front-mount version from ca. 1904 is shown in this thread:
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... ert#p47590
Around 1905, Zonophones were offered in rear-mount versions. Here's a catalog spread showing the Concert as a rear-mount, but equipped with a newer style motor than yours. This catalog dates from no earlier than 1907.
I would date your Concert to 1905-1906.
Check the underside of your cabinet to see if the original sticker is present. If so, the price will be marked (although often in faded red ink).
I hope this helps.
George P.
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... ert#p47590
Around 1905, Zonophones were offered in rear-mount versions. Here's a catalog spread showing the Concert as a rear-mount, but equipped with a newer style motor than yours. This catalog dates from no earlier than 1907.
I would date your Concert to 1905-1906.
Check the underside of your cabinet to see if the original sticker is present. If so, the price will be marked (although often in faded red ink).
I hope this helps.
George P.
-
columbia1spring
- Victor II
- Posts: 433
- Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:17 am
- Personal Text: If I have no friends, then who’s reading this?
- Location: Central Florida
Re: Zonophone what model is this?
The only decal I was able to find was this inside the cabinet. It also came with a Hawthorne & Sheble green flowered horn.
Your info did help, I can now say I have a Zonophone Concert, rear mount!
Thank You!
[]
I would date your Concert to 1905-1906.
George P.[/quote]
Your info did help, I can now say I have a Zonophone Concert, rear mount!
Thank You!
[]
I would date your Concert to 1905-1906.
George P.[/quote]
- phonogfp
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 8166
- Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:08 pm
- Personal Text: "If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will." - A. Lincoln
- Location: New York's Finger Lakes
Re: Zonophone what model is this?
Not to pick nits, but that's not a decal.
Perhaps you'd like to show your entire machine in a photo or two?
George P.
Perhaps you'd like to show your entire machine in a photo or two?
George P.
-
columbia1spring
- Victor II
- Posts: 433
- Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:17 am
- Personal Text: If I have no friends, then who’s reading this?
- Location: Central Florida
Re: Zonophone what model is this?
Perhaps you'd like to show your entire machine in a photo or two?
George P.[/quote]
More then happy!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUl67uh ... e=youtu.be
George P.[/quote]
More then happy!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUl67uh ... e=youtu.be
- phonogfp
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 8166
- Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:08 pm
- Personal Text: "If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will." - A. Lincoln
- Location: New York's Finger Lakes
Re: Zonophone what model is this?
Nice!
Your Concert is equipped with the same relatively late Hawthorne & Sheble horn as supplied with the H&S Star machines, and the Yankee Prince (U.S. Design Patent No.38,478; filed January 31, 1907). (APS members will be seeing more on the Yankee Prince in the June issue of The Antique Phonograph, which will be in the mail within days!)
This horn, if original to the machine, would suggest a later date - - possibly 1907. But I'd surely be surprised if Zonophone was using the earlier motor (yours) as late as 1907.
George P.
Your Concert is equipped with the same relatively late Hawthorne & Sheble horn as supplied with the H&S Star machines, and the Yankee Prince (U.S. Design Patent No.38,478; filed January 31, 1907). (APS members will be seeing more on the Yankee Prince in the June issue of The Antique Phonograph, which will be in the mail within days!)
This horn, if original to the machine, would suggest a later date - - possibly 1907. But I'd surely be surprised if Zonophone was using the earlier motor (yours) as late as 1907.
George P.
-
gramophone78
- Victor VI
- Posts: 3946
- Joined: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:42 am
- Location: Western Canada
Re: Zonophone what model is this?
Nice looking machine. There is going to be another interesting Zonophone article in the upcoming June issue of The Antique Phonograph magazine...phonogfp wrote:Nice!![]()
Your Concert is equipped with the same relatively late Hawthorne & Sheble horn as supplied with the H&S Star machines, and the Yankee Prince (U.S. Design Patent No.38,478; filed January 31, 1907). (APS members will be seeing more on the Yankee Prince in the June issue of The Antique Phonograph, which will be in the mail within days!)
This horn, if original to the machine, would suggest a later date - - possibly 1907. But I'd surely be surprised if Zonophone was using the earlier motor (yours) as late as 1907.
George P.
-
columbia1spring
- Victor II
- Posts: 433
- Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:17 am
- Personal Text: If I have no friends, then who’s reading this?
- Location: Central Florida
Re: Zonophone what model is this?
I really appreciate all the kind words....
If you look directly at the phonograph, you can see the word Zonophone where the decal was, definitely was one there at some point. I had another topic going about the decal and read on there web site about installation. I know my capabilities and doing that is something I'll leave for a pro who has done many in the past.
Thank You!!
If you look directly at the phonograph, you can see the word Zonophone where the decal was, definitely was one there at some point. I had another topic going about the decal and read on there web site about installation. I know my capabilities and doing that is something I'll leave for a pro who has done many in the past.
Thank You!!