What Victor is this?

BwanaJoe · Post by **BwanaJoe** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:07 am

Hey guys, does anyone know what machine this is or have any info about it? Thanks in advance.

Post by **JerryVan** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:25 am

It's a VV-50 portable. Someone has moved the lid hinges from the back of the lid to the side however.

52089 · Post by **52089** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:32 am

JerryVan wrote:It's a VV-50 portable. Someone has moved the lid hinges from the back of the lid to the side however.

Agreed. I did a video on these a while back:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCk-m86JmmQ[/youtube]

BwanaJoe · Post by **BwanaJoe** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:48 am

So it looks like the lid prop is missing, the crank holder and the data plate. Are those something that can be easily obtained? I should also ask if there is anything else missing I may not have noticed. From pictures online it looks as if sometimes there is a spindle holder on the lid as well. By that I mean some late models I've seen seem to be missing the spindle and needle holders. Is it a transitional thing?

Torjazzer · Post by **Torjazzer** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:30 pm

There were two generations of this model. The earlier model had the winding key on the front. In 1923 it was moved to the side. There were other changes. The spindle was extended high to accommodate a stack of records, allowing the owner to store records during transportation: I think eight is the maximum. On the lid, there should be a clamp with an eye hole that lines up with the spindle. This was to press down on the stack of records to keep them in place during the jaunty ride to your picnic. There should also be three clips to hold the winding key (crank) and a double-door needle pot. One thing I notice is the colour of the crank, handle and nuts. In the picture, they appear to be gold. If so, someone has spray painted them. They should be nickel. As noted above, someone has hinged the lid on the side of the machine instead of the rear, behind the tonearm. Notice the ramping shape of the lid; how it curves. The lid of the vv-50 is an extension of the horn; the curvature projects the sound forward but it can do that only if it's mounted at the rear. However, with all the items missing and misplaced, this is a machine worth saving. For one thing, it's oak. Most of the vv-50s were mahogany and collectors look for the oak model. This machine should also have a nickel plated No. 2 reproducer.

BwanaJoe · Post by **BwanaJoe** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:42 pm

Thanks and now for the million dollar question; a fair price?

Curt A · Post by **Curt A** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:57 pm

In that condition... and assuming you can find the correct parts... less is better, so $100 or less in my opinion. A complete one in good condition can be found for under $300.

Torjazzer · Post by **Torjazzer** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:10 pm

$150 would be my absolute limit and only because it's oak. If it weren't oak, I wouldn't touch it. BTW, it's also missing the lid latch.

BwanaJoe · Post by **BwanaJoe** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:30 pm

That is a lot of hardware to locate. Is the hardware common enough to be able to pick up? Or would I be looking at an uphill climb to retore this example?

Phonolair · Post by **Phonolair** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:58 pm

Curt A wrote: A complete one in good condition can be found for under $300.

Agreed,

I would walk away and start looking for a good one. Even if you find the parts you still have a damaged case where the new hinges were added. Also the veneer is coming off on the back of the lid and case.

Regards, Larry Crandell

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