Early VV-IV Phonograph Questions

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benjaminh
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Re: Early VV-IV Phonograph Questions

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Any suggestions for getting the platter off? There is definetely no screw holding it on, at least not above the motorboard. What do you mean by "At the very minimum you could cut a slot from the speaker crank hole and lift the motor up and out"? I hope it doesn't mean what I think it does....

dutchman
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Re: Early VV-IV Phonograph Questions

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Is the crank you have the correct crank? :D

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benjaminh
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Re: Early VV-IV Phonograph Questions

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No, I don't have any crank for it right now. I've posted an ad in the Yankee Trader section, and Harvey Kritz might be able to set me up with one.

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Re: Early VV-IV Phonograph Questions

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I have a feeling once you get the crank to this machine what you are looking at through the crank hole is correct and your problem may vanish. By cutting a slot I meant once the internal horn is exposed if you still cannot get the motor out a vertical slot could be cut in the internal horn board which contains the crank hole. Cheers

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Re: Early VV-IV Phonograph Questions

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Anyone know how to remove the base (not the thin piece, but the thicker base)? I've removed the three screws, but am wondering if it's glued on or not. If I can get this off, I might be able to get the extension off.

The platter is still frozen on; anyone have some additional tips?

Bill, there is absolutely no way to access the horn to cut the slot. I can't access the motor, or lift the motor board, because of this extension.
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Re: Early VV-IV Phonograph Questions

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Obvious choices are soaking in penetrating oil for days, but that will stain the turntable felt if there is one. You could also try heating with a small torch or hot air gun, but that also only works without felt. You could try freezing spray like used for medical purposes to create a similar temperature difference and hope to loosen the turntable from the shaft. I had a severely rusted on turntable on my Victor II and tried all of these methods until after anout a week it finally came off.

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Re: Early VV-IV Phonograph Questions

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I remember seeing a Lundstrom Converto in a second hand store many years ago.Did they also make Convertos large enough to hold VV-VI's? I'm sure they did.edisonplayer

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Re: Early VV-IV Phonograph Questions

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When I bought mine the seller also had a really nice VV-VIa which I also bought. Fits like a glove.

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Re: Early VV-IV Phonograph Questions

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Does anyone know how to remove the base? I'm speaking of the thicker frame, not the thin piece that contains the maintenance instructions pasted on.

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Re: Early VV-IV Phonograph Questions

Post by martinola »

Benjamin, I see your problem as regards the crank extension. Perhaps when you get the crank, some locktite on the threads of the crank will help the extension and the crank act as one, and allow you to unwind the extension from the motor. I've heard that some locktite glues can be dissolved if necessary. Not a very great design for servicing! Any of our car restorers out there have an idea if this might work?

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Martin

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