Detroit Estate Sale Circassian Walnut Victor

[PHONOMAN]

If you are not going to buy it, I see no problem letting others know about the item.

Haters need to grow up and enjoy this hobby.

Remember there are more collectors dying or leaving the collecting field do to age, downsizing, etc.

The value of machines are dropping and great and so called rare machines are showing up.
On CL, Estate Sales, local auction houses, etc.

The same is also happening to the Automated Musical Items, Clocks, Music boxes.

[Victrola-Monkey]

100% agree with above. Competition sometimes sucks but overall, it's for the best to obtain a fair market.

I accidentally tested this in past months... I posted on two separate occasions the active auction listings of the rare Columbia Lareto and Edison Elizabethean disc phonographs on TMF. These weren't mine, I just found them on my search, felt they were too rich for my blood, and just wanted you all have a chance to own something this special. I was surprised to see no one bought them. Additionally through watching that process, I got that darn feeling of now "I want it". After contacting the sellers, who would not budge on their price, I bought them myself. Felt that was crazy how that all went down and had to share. Feel I got lucky on that one. Personally I figured I give up a bunch of less rare machines for these and get some space back to boot.

[PHONOMAN]

Did you buy the Elizabethan that was passed in Schmidt New Years Auction?

I just called a friend about his P-32. It was in his store for $1500 for years in Beverly Hills. I know he liquidated the store and put some things in storage.
I'll post if it is available

[PHONOMAN]

The store was across from the Ivy on Robertson, if anyone in LA remembers the phonograph used to sit by the window, with vintage fabric pillows underneath back in the early 90s

[Victrola-Monkey]

PhonoMan, Yes, I did. $1500 for a P-32? I'll take two. Please post if available. Thanks.

[PHONOMAN]

The p-32 went to Ames auction house in 2007 with most of his items. He looked on his list only sold for $250. He couldn't believe it was worth over $8,000 dollars.
He said, he is going to have a good cry and a cocktail this afternoon looking out at the ocean.

[Victrola-Monkey]

Wow $250. Well he can lessen the amount of tears by a little. I paid $5k for each of the two period machines. Don't think any others of these models exist.

Btw, I have had the exact same bad experiences, meantioned in this thread, occur to me too. Those times really stunk but after experiencing both sides IMHO, posting does more good then harm. Additionally, I think my willingness to travel the US for these machines does bias my opinion in that I feel locality of the buyer within the US should play less into the equation than being first to commit or highest paid (in an auction setting).

[Uncle Vanya]

Wow $250. Well he can lessen the amount of tears by a little. I paid $5k for each of the two period machines. Don't think any others of these models exist.

Btw, I have had the exact same bad experiences, meantioned in this thread, occur to me too. Those times really stunk but after experiencing both sides IMHO, posting does more good then harm. Additionally, I think my willingness to travel the US for these machines does bias my opinion in that I feel locality of the buyer within the US should play less into the equation than being first to commit or highest paid (in an auction setting).

My problem is when I am the first to commit, have an agreement with a seller, then while I am en-route he gets flooded with queries from the board, and I find that I've driven to, say Southfield, or Oak Park for naught.

[PHONOMAN]

I offered $3500 on the Edison, but was turned down.
I think your fine on the machines if you bought them to keep and enjoy.

[downsouth]

That last sentence of the last post was a very valid statement. "Your good if you bought the machines to keep for yourself". Here's where I have a problem, as previously stated to make plans and drive to pickup the machine only to be told you've now been ousted and another person with deeper pockets and no intentions of buying the machine other than to make a buck. That sucks and is not good kharma at all. This has happened to me before as I am sure others here can chime in as well. It's not a good thing at all. Wes