Unusual labels indeed

[Lenoirstreetguy]

Here's two unusual ones....and again I ask how on earth these ended up in Toronto...especially the souvenir of the Panama Pacific Exposition in San Francisco in 1915.
The non Edison Diamond disc is a vertical cut rarity..from London about 1908 I think. I must dig up the material I have about them,,,,but here is the first one I've ever seen.

[Shane]

I've read about the "diamond" label, but I certainly have never seen one. Are these vertical cut like Pathés, or are these vertical cut like diamond discs?

[JohnM]

Only Diamond Discs are vertical cut like Diamond Discs. All others are U-shaped groove hill & dale.

[Howerd]

Actually in the UK "Marathon" discs are cut with a "V" Groove - just like Diamond Discs - the "Diamond Disc" above was a product of "British Pathé".

Bless

Howerd

[Lenoirstreetguy]

The Diamond record dates from about 1915 not 1908 as I said. They were one of that efflorescence of vertical cut records during the teens. England started early with the Neophone disc, but the Diamond discs were later. It's a wonder that T A Edison Inc didn't get a little hissy with them. The label is is engraved like a Pathé and the lettering is quite green which didn't show up in the pic.
I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised that the Panama Pacific disc ended up here: it may have been brought back as a souvenir. At a contents sale here I bought a handwritten travel diary about just such a holiday taken by a wealthy Toronto family in 1915. They loved the Fair: and interestingly one of the entries goes into raves about a concert they attended featuring Alma Gluck and Efrem Zimbalist. The Arts events in conjunction with the Fair were extensive. Now as far as Margaret Woodrow Wilson goes, as a vocalist she's a wonderful President's daughter.
Jim

[Edisone]

http://www.archeophone.com/features/recordings/906.php

[phonophan79]

These should be added to The TMF Label Gallery & Guide.

[Neophone]

These should be added to The TMF Label Gallery & Guide.

D..,

I agree!!!

[Lenoirstreetguy]

Edisone...that url about Margaret Woodrow Wilson is interesting. I shouldn't perhaps have been quite so patronizing about her: her other records are a bit better. A bit. And this was for charity after all. And her voice...a light soprano...was the kind to which acoustic recording was particularly unkind. She did a lot of tours for the Red Cross after the US entered the War. I have seen a great pic of her and Percy Grainger on one of these. By all reports she was a good sport through all the touring and she even went to France to entertain the troops. She was kind of a suffragette which makes her fine in my books.

Jim

[MordEth]

These should be added to The TMF Label Gallery & Guide.

Yes, it definitely should...

...and it will be, when a certain slacker wrestles together free time and motivation to do just that.

I’ve still got quite a few images to get up, but these are definitely on the list.

Lenoirstreetguy: Thanks for sharing them!

— MordEth