Victor Back Bracket Value? This can't be real....can it?

[Crank_it_up]

Take a look at this recent eBay auction. Then look at the bid history. I can't believe someone really bid this much for a very average bracket with tonearm. A bidder with a high rating placed a crazy bid of at least $2025. Then someone with a low rating bid 22 times in a 40 minute span pushing it to this crazy result. What am I missing? I can think of a few reasons why it happened but they are bad thoughts. Joe
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nice-ORIGINAL-V ... true&rt=nc

[ambrola]

I would suspect shill bidding if you look at the bidders. We all know things sell for more than they are worth sometimes, but this is crazy? I will sell all of mine and buy repops for those prices.

[alang]

That's why you can't/shouldn't put in your best bid earlier than the last few seconds. One time I only bid 10 minutes before end, because I had to go somewhere and someone with a low bid rating bid me up to my max and then retracted the last (winning) bid, so I would win at my max bid. The same bidder had a whole bunch of retracted bids in the last few months, so I am certain this was an intentional tactic employed by the seller, who is on my "never again list" now. There is a lot of discussion here about bad or unreasonable buyers, but there are a few shady sellers in our hobby as well. Very unfortunate.

Andreas

[Uncle Vanya]

"What am I missing? I can think of a few reasons why it happened but they are bad thoughts. Joe"

"I would suspect shill bidding if you look at the bidders."

"but there are a few shady sellers in our hobby as well"


There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

I am the seller of this item, and I am simply beside myself. A well-known collector left a period out of his bid, and some new, low-feedback buyer bid the thing up in little nibbles to this rediculous price. The same new buyer won five other of my items sold last night. His contact information is false.

Oh! The joys of eBay!

[EarlH]

WOW, that's too bad. I did that once myself and do not bid in amounts where I need to use a decimal points. But that only cost me $100 more than I wanted to pay. I bought the item of course, but that was the end of me not using whole dollar amounts.

Back when you could use other bidders as a search engine, I used to have a lamp collector outbid me on stuff at the last second on nearly every lamp part I found. I had sold a car I had and had $2000 from the sale in the bank, so I figured I would teach them a lesson. I bid $2000 on an early etched gas lampshade that was REALLY nice a few days before the auction was over. They got it for $2025.00 at the last second bumping it up from $38.00! I'm sure the seller was thrilled, and I got an email from the purchaser saying they wouldn't never do that again. Ha! I hope they like that shade. Ebay refused to let them back out of the bid and I would have been fine paying $40 for the shade or whatever the next bid would have been. I don't see them on ebay anymore, so either they have changed the ID they were using or they finally ran out of money, or space for lamps.

Oh well, hopefully things will work out fine in your situation. It sounds like an honest mistake on the 'real' bidders part.

[gramophone78]

"What am I missing? I can think of a few reasons why it happened but they are bad thoughts. Joe"

"I would suspect shill bidding if you look at the bidders."

"but there are a few shady sellers in our hobby as well"


There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

I am the seller of this item, and I am simply beside myself. A well-known collector left a period out of his bid, and some new, low-feedback buyer bid the thing up in little nibbles to this rediculous price. The same new buyer won five other of my items sold last night. His contact information is false.

Oh! The joys of eBay!

Maybe, you can share with all of us the highjacked user name in order for us to block.

[Uncle Vanya]

I did not propose that any user name was hijacked. An old, established collector left a decimal point out of his bid and the owner of a new account, barely 10 days old, bid the item up ridiculously in the last twenty minutes of the sale, as well as buying several other of my items, despite having false contact informatiin. eBay tells me that I must treat this bidder as a legitimate buyer until the "process runs its course". After the eBay process goes through and all of the dust settles I will certainly post the user ID of the manic bidder.

[ambrola]

Uncle Vayna,
What would you think without knowing the real story?

[Uncle Vanya]

Uncle Vayna,
What would you think without knowing the real story?

Well, it does look pretty suspicious. On the other hand I have found over the years that I am correct more often when I make a point to assume that a potentially suspicious situation has an innocent explanation than when imagining the worst.

It is so very easy to instigate a rabid, foaming dog pile on the internet, and so very hard to recover a good name.

Haven't you noticed that sort of thing even here in this otherwise decorous forum from time to time?

It seems to me that life runs a lot smoother when we all try to give the other fellow the benefit of the doubt. Of course as the youngsters say; "your mileage may vary".

Then, too, when jumping to judgement we might all do well to consider "Projektion": "What the ego repudiates is split off and attributed to another"...

[gramophone78]

I did not propose that any user name was hijacked. An old, established collector left a decimal point out of his bid and the owner of a new account, barely 10 days old, bid the item up ridiculously in the last twenty minutes of the sale, as well as buying several other of my items, despite having false contact informatiin. eBay tells me that I must treat this bidder as a legitimate buyer until the "process runs its course". After the eBay process goes through and all of the dust settles I will certainly post the user ID of the manic bidder.

Sorry, I meant the newer bidder that you stated has a false contact. Chances are the user name may have been highjacked (since there is a (9) feedback. Based on your initial post, the bidder had no intention wanting or paying for any item. This type of situation is running rampant on Ebay these days.

As you say...once the dust settles, I'm sure we would like to know in order to block this individual.