As the title asks, why are those things so thick? Other hill and dale records are not.
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Why are Edison Diamond Discs So Thick?
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Why are Edison Diamond Discs So Thick?
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Re: Why are Edison Diamind Discs So Thick?
Edison wanted stability, no warping, and they had to stand up to the weight of his playing system.
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Re: Why are Edison Diamind Discs So Thick?
Rather than go into majorly detailed explanations of it here..probably more than can be typed, I highly suggest that you pick up one of the Frow Diamond Disc books listed below.. They are usually around $20.00 or so. More than reasonably priced. It will tell you more than you ever wanted to know about the Diamond Disc manufacturing process and how it came to be. See weblinks below:
Edison Diamond Disc Phonographs by George L. Frow (Original Hardcover Bound version)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Edison-Disc ... SwyB9XDT4D
and
Edison Diamond Disc Phonographs by George L. Frow (Newer Updated Softcover Bound version of same book.)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-The-Edison- ... SwJkJWlBzm
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Tony K.
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Edison Diamond Disc Phonographs by George L. Frow (Original Hardcover Bound version)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Edison-Disc ... SwyB9XDT4D
and
Edison Diamond Disc Phonographs by George L. Frow (Newer Updated Softcover Bound version of same book.)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-The-Edison- ... SwJkJWlBzm

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Re: Why are Edison Diamind Discs So Thick?
Thanks, that is enough information for me.estott wrote:Edison wanted stability, no warping, and they had to stand up to the weight of his playing system.
Dave.
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Re: Why are Edison Diamind Discs So Thick?
I have the Diamond Disc book,, but I don't recall any reason for the extreme thickness of them being given. Thanks!NEFaurora wrote:Rather than go into majorly detailed explanations of it here..probably more than can be typed, I highly suggest that you pick up one of the Frow Diamond Disc books listed below.. They are usually around $20.00 or so. More than reasonably priced. It will tell you more than you ever wanted to know about the Diamond Disc manufacturing process and how it came to be. See weblinks below:
Edison Diamond Disc Phonographs by George L. Frow (Original Hardcover Bound version)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Edison-Disc ... SwyB9XDT4D
and
Edison Diamond Disc Phonographs by George L. Frow (Newer Updated Softcover Bound version of same book.)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-The-Edison- ... SwJkJWlBzm
)
Tony K.
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Re: Why are Edison Diamond Discs So Thick?
Edison studied Pathé's records to learn what not to do. Pathé records had a tendency to skip due to broad shallow grooves. Edison went with narrower, deeper grooves. A thick record guaranteed there would be no warping, something I appreciate today! Comparing the two systems now, I'd say Edison was right.
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Re: Why are Edison Diamind Discs So Thick?
Buy the Frow books. Stop being a mooch.Dave D wrote:Thanks, that is enough information for me.estott wrote:Edison wanted stability, no warping, and they had to stand up to the weight of his playing system.
Dave.
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Re: Why are Edison Diamind Discs So Thick?
Wolfe wrote:Buy the Frow books. Stop being a mooch.Dave D wrote:Thanks, that is enough information for me.estott wrote:Edison wanted stability, no warping, and they had to stand up to the weight of his playing system.
Dave.
Putting a price on information, are we?
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Re: Why are Edison Diamond Discs So Thick?
Except for when the discs are 'dished', and cause problems in playback, when the reproducer tops out and starts damaging the grooves...VintageTechnologies wrote:Edison studied Pathé's records to learn what not to do. Pathé records had a tendency to skip due to broad shallow grooves. Edison went with narrower, deeper grooves. A thick record guaranteed there would be no warping, something I appreciate today! Comparing the two systems now, I'd say Edison was right.
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Re: Why are Edison Diamond Discs So Thick?
That is good to know, too. Thanks for your courteous response.VintageTechnologies wrote:Edison studied Pathé's records to learn what not to do. Pathé records had a tendency to skip due to broad shallow grooves. Edison went with narrower, deeper grooves. A thick record guaranteed there would be no warping, something I appreciate today! Comparing the two systems now, I'd say Edison was right.
Dave D