R,
I've finally had a chance to get behind my 42 and take a few photos for you. In your photos, the motor appears to be different, not only in color, but also in design. The biggest difference is that the driven gear is exposed on yours and not on mine. The mounts are completely different, yours appears to have been adapted from something else. That you already surmised. The question is: Did that adaptation include the proper installation of the lower platter (below the turntable) and other mechanical drivers that operate the changer functions?
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Thanks for taking the time to take the photos.
Yeah, completely different motors, but remember, this is a 42 DC unit. Yes, the driven gear is exposed. Now that I have the motor out of the changer, I have it running nicely, but only on DC. I've tried running it on AC and it's a no-go. Neither the motor, nor the relay will work on AC.
All the changer mechanisms under the platter are there and functional. I can run the changer through a full cycle manually and it all appears to work correctly.
Yeah, completely different motors, but remember, this is a 42 DC unit. Yes, the driven gear is exposed. Now that I have the motor out of the changer, I have it running nicely, but only on DC. I've tried running it on AC and it's a no-go. Neither the motor, nor the relay will work on AC.
All the changer mechanisms under the platter are there and functional. I can run the changer through a full cycle manually and it all appears to work correctly.
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So, progress has been made. I removed the motor from the changer and found that it would run just fine. Thinking that the bogus washer arrangement a previous repairer had used as shims was the problem I wound up using some ¼" Lexan as a spacer/rigid base to mount the motor to the chassis. The results were better than I could have hoped. It runs like a top. I now believe that the washer arrangement, being too thick also caused the motor assy to be positioned too low in the changer. This resulted in another problem I ran across - the friction wheel under the platter would not contact the rubber roller. I thought the roller was worn, but now think the mounting was the whole problem. I am still mystified if this motor and mount are from another model machine, or somehow is original; maybe original motor and different mount? The wiring to the motor appears to be unmolested, but the mount is definitely not the right one, as the mounting holes don't match up.
Next I need to address the issue of the rubber cushions under the changer. The old ones are crushed and fossilized, but I'm not sure of the size (thickness) needed. Any knowledge out there?
Next I need to address the issue of the rubber cushions under the changer. The old ones are crushed and fossilized, but I'm not sure of the size (thickness) needed. Any knowledge out there?
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I'm glad for you that the motor is up and running. I just addressed a similar problem in a tower fan motor. After sawing my way into the case, thanks to one stupid "security" screw with a recessed triangular-head socket (Dremel lives!), I discovered the problem was a frozen motor shaft bottom bearing. After removing the armature to get to the bearing end, a CLA fixed it up completely and the fan is not yet ready for the landfill!
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Reb,
Those rubber bushings are not critical in thickness. I stamped some out of a ½" Buton rubber sheet which came from Mcmaster Carr. Russie
Those rubber bushings are not critical in thickness. I stamped some out of a ½" Buton rubber sheet which came from Mcmaster Carr. Russie
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I had wondered about that, in fact I even flipped through a McMaster Carr catalog looking for something. I'll give that another look. Thanks.
On another note, I'm having to trace out the wiring on the changer as well, as the DC version is different from the AC, surprise, surprise. There is even an extra switch that is not listed on the schematic, a toggle switch that is moved manually by a small lever near where the pickup head rests.
On another note, I'm having to trace out the wiring on the changer as well, as the DC version is different from the AC, surprise, surprise. There is even an extra switch that is not listed on the schematic, a toggle switch that is moved manually by a small lever near where the pickup head rests.