FOLLOW THE RESTORATION: all that glitters is not gold...yet!

Discussions on Talking Machines & Accessories
User avatar
gemering
Victor IV
Posts: 1197
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:35 pm

Re: FOLLOW THE RESTORATION: all that glitters is not gold...

Post by gemering »

Wyatt,

I have stated many times on this forum that you are amazing!

stevenhman
Victor I
Posts: 124
Joined: Fri May 06, 2016 1:49 am
Location: Raleigh, NC

Re: FOLLOW THE RESTORATION: all that glitters is not gold...

Post by stevenhman »

Very cool! I'm interested in seeing how you prep the parts for plating.

User avatar
MicaMonster
Victor III
Posts: 847
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:52 pm
Personal Text: Never Settled
Location: Rochester, NY
Contact:

Re: FOLLOW THE RESTORATION: all that glitters is not gold...

Post by MicaMonster »

Meditation is the name of the game here. OVER-PREP.....it looks fake or new. Absolutely not what I am after. Two options...tank plating or brush plating. I am a little afraid of the results of tank plating, simply because of the sheer cost of getting it done, especially doing it yourself. I attempted brush plating some of the excellent original nickel with gold, and the results turned out so good, I surprised myself. Prep involved polishing with a liquid non-abrasive silver polish, then wiping down with lacquer thinner and washing with dish soap to remove all oils and fingerprints. Shown here is the plating gel, the contrast between nickel and gold wash, and the top casting and plated ID badge. Whaddaya think?
Attachments
image.jpeg
image.jpeg
image.jpeg
-Antique Phonograph Reproducer Restorer-
http://www.EdisonDiamondDisc.com
Taming Orthophonics Daily!

User avatar
phonogfp
Victor Monarch Special
Posts: 8079
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:08 pm
Personal Text: "If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will." - A. Lincoln
Location: New York's Finger Lakes

Re: FOLLOW THE RESTORATION: all that glitters is not gold...

Post by phonogfp »

Absolutely! :)

George P.

User avatar
Curt A
Victor Monarch Special
Posts: 6845
Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:32 pm
Personal Text: Needle Tins are Addictive
Location: Belmont, North Carolina

Re: FOLLOW THE RESTORATION: all that glitters is not gold...

Post by Curt A »

Looks great Wyatt... what brand of plating solution did you use?
"The phonograph† is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.

"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife

User avatar
fran604g
Victor VI
Posts: 3992
Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:22 pm
Personal Text: I'm Feeling Cranky
Location: Hemlock, NY

Re: FOLLOW THE RESTORATION: all that glitters is not gold...

Post by fran604g »

Wyatt, I would seriously entertain taking your restoration instruction courses. Do you offer them at a continuing education facility?

Seriously, the gold looks scary perfect.

Best,
Fran
Francis; "i" for him, "e" for her
"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" - the unappreciative supervisor.

GrafonolaG50
Victor II
Posts: 321
Joined: Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:20 pm
Location: Winfield,Mo
Contact:

Re: FOLLOW THE RESTORATION: all that glitters is not gold...

Post by GrafonolaG50 »

Curt A wrote:Looks great Wyatt... what brand of plating solution did you use?
What he said. Also, where do you get the plating solution and how much does it cover per "kit"?

User avatar
MicaMonster
Victor III
Posts: 847
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:52 pm
Personal Text: Never Settled
Location: Rochester, NY
Contact:

Re: FOLLOW THE RESTORATION: all that glitters is not gold...

Post by MicaMonster »

Plating Solution is from Texas Platers Supply. Instructions call for 3.0 to 4.5 Volts DC.....I do gold at 5V-7.5V, depending on my mood, using a DC transformer. Cost per bottle is about $80, plus brushes and roach clips for clipping piece to negative power and brush to positive power. Coverage is VERY LITTLE because gold goes on very very thin. The stuff has a shelf life, too....so you need to use it almost immediately. This machine will cost under $1000 in supplies, I think. Maybe. Steel parts will need nickel and copper plating as well.

I DO THIS SLOWLY, so I get a good buildup of metal. This makes the project a bit more costly. CASWELL sells gold solution for $100 per ounce.......which this is very much in line with.

I started working on the mandrel.....and man-oh-man....this is SCARY GOOD LOOKING. The mechanism is going to look very much like a stock original unit when I'm done. I'll need to make an onion paper sleeve or something to put on the mandrel so the white plaster from blue amberols doesn't strip off the gold!

Fran, you joke about offering a Phonograph Restoration course...... You might see me on late night public access TV selling my 10 DVD set for a low introductory price, and a small shipping and handling fee!!! :lol:

I've burned (brushed?) through my first bottle. Ordered 3 more to tide me over.

Note to beginners: As the metal salts get used up up in the gel, it turns darker green, and starts to smell like rotted mouse guts (ask my cat, she will confirm this). This is normal.
-Antique Phonograph Reproducer Restorer-
http://www.EdisonDiamondDisc.com
Taming Orthophonics Daily!

User avatar
MicaMonster
Victor III
Posts: 847
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:52 pm
Personal Text: Never Settled
Location: Rochester, NY
Contact:

Re: FOLLOW THE RESTORATION: all that glitters is not gold...

Post by MicaMonster »

GOLD. I'm forming a Brush Plater's Union now. Time to stand up for labor rights. No brush plating after.....8:30PM. :lol:
Attachments
image.jpeg
-Antique Phonograph Reproducer Restorer-
http://www.EdisonDiamondDisc.com
Taming Orthophonics Daily!

Garret
Victor IV
Posts: 1653
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:07 pm
Location: Lille, France

Re: FOLLOW THE RESTORATION: all that glitters is not gold...

Post by Garret »

:o

Post Reply