Puck Phonograph Questions

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argand
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Puck Phonograph Questions

Post by argand »

Hi,
Any fellow collectors know how to thread this Puck? I don't know how to use the moveable idler pully in the picture.
Also, what is that moveable curved piece on the end of the mandrel?

Thanks.
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phonodesbois
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Re: Puck Phonograph Questions

Post by phonodesbois »

Hi,

First pic: this piece (which should positioned differently) is used to support the horn (and reproducer) when not playing.
Second pic: the pulley is used to adjust the tension of the belt which should go under the pulley.

Maybe, that's not very clear so (!!!) so I will try later on to make some pictures of one of my pucks.
Jeff

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Re: Puck Phonograph Questions

Post by JerryVan »

In your second pic, that is a belt tensioner. It's meant to swing freely to allow the weight of the arm to drive the little pulley up against the belt to tension it.

I'm guessing the item in your first pic is a bent up brake lever? Hard to tell from your photo angle.

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Re: Puck Phonograph Questions

Post by JerryVan »

JerryVan wrote:In your second pic, that is a belt tensioner. It's meant to swing freely to allow the weight of the arm to drive the little pulley up against the belt to tension it.

I'm guessing the item in your first pic is a bent up brake lever? Hard to tell from your photo angle.

Or, thinking about it further, if the tensioner arm were stiffly mounted, you could move it such that the idler pulley makes tension and it would stay put. However, the floating tensioner concept above may work better.

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Re: Puck Phonograph Questions

Post by phonodesbois »

Hi all,
I had a look to different Puck models and all of them have a start/stop lever on top the motor (which does not seem to be the case with yours, at least on the pic); as well, they have a “moveable curved piece” as horn support.
Other than that, I don't have the corresponding technical and service manual....

Merry Christmas and happy new year to all the forum members.

Jeff

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Re: Puck Phonograph Questions

Post by jboger »

If you click on and thereby enlarge the photos, you might find a more agreeable angle.

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Re: Puck Phonograph Questions

Post by US PHONO »

You should bend down the end so that it acts as a brake (stop / Start) on the regulator as you can see in the photo below.
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Re: Puck Phonograph Questions

Post by phonodesbois »

Hi all,

As it's late by now in Europe, it's not easy to make good pics so I will try by tomorrow.

US PHONO: looking at your pic, it's seems that the speed regulator is missing (see pic)

There are definitively two Pucks models; most of the time, there is a start/stop lever on top of the motor so there is no need to use the curved piece to stop or start it.

The second model does not have this start/stop lever and I found a very poor copy of the “user manual” of such a model (Phonographe “Le Populaire”) where they said that the user should use the speed regulator screw to start the motor and, as well, adjust the speed and stop the motor.

“Il ne reste plus qu'à mettre en marche, ce qui se fait au moyen de la vis horizontale placée sur la colonne de droite de l'appareil. Cette vis sert également à régler la vitesse et à arrêter la mécanique.”

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Re: Puck Phonograph Questions

Post by US PHONO »

I thought people would be distracted by the dust & not notice! The brake is merely a piece of spring steel as you can see in the photo how it is set up. This model puck btw is from the company Carette
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Re: Puck Phonograph Questions

Post by phonodesbois »

Hi again,

As I broke the belt while moving the puck, I will not give any suggestion on how to position the belt on the pulley....

For the “curved piece” (I don't know how to call it!), I made some pics who show how to use it to support the horn and reproducer when not playing
By the way, although the shape is different, it still works to stop the mechanism if you don't have the start/stop lever or don't want to use the speed regulator screw.

Merry Christmas,
Jeff
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