Traded for an Edison Standard

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Traded for an Edison Standard

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I could use some help with this one. I just traded a nice Grebe Syncrophase radio and Tower ship speaker for it. Its an Edison Standard, serial number S 296134 . Finish on the case is original. The machine plays although the speed surges a little. As far as I know, it has never been serviced except for a new belt. The previous owner was not sure if the horn was genuine or a reproduction but, from what I have researched, it seems to be authentic to me. It has the slight flattening at the end of the bell and a beaded joint where the brass meets the the steel. If it is not real, its a very good reproduction. Anyway, I know nothing about these. I have just always liked the looks of them. It took me 2 years to talk the guy out of it so hopefully, my patience paid off. If someone could decipher the serial number, that would be great. Thanks!
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Looks like a nice Model B two minute Standard to me. The banner decal was standard for about the first 25% of the B series. I'd need a side view to give an opinion on the horn.

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Any idea when it was made? Im guessing 1904-05 ?

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This site is rather useful.
http://www.antiquephono.org/spotters-gu ... honograph/

I am fortunate to have a two clip- the first Standard. Looks like yours *might* be an A but I'm no expert on these so Jerry B is likely right. Anyways, enjoy it! :D
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gramophone-georg wrote:This site is rather useful.
http://www.antiquephono.org/spotters-gu ... honograph/

I am fortunate to have a two clip- the first Standard. Looks like yours *might* be an A but I'm no expert on these so Jerry B is likely right. Anyways, enjoy it! :D
Definitely a Model B. The Model A has the speed control above the bedplate. The Model B does not (with the exception of language machines like ICS.)

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The Model-B with the Banner Case was produced from its inception in Oct-Dec of 1905 until the summer of 1906.

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Jerry, here is the horn.
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The crimped end, the brass bead, and the transition between cone and bell, all look authentic to me. If you find any trace of a "Patented" stamp, that would clinch it - but some originals do not have one.

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As others have said, it's a Model B, and the serial number indicates it left the factory about April 1906.

The horn looks genuine to me as well. :)

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The Edison Standard is a "transitional model"... meaning you have now transitioned into a new addiction (cylinders and machines). Congratulations, it's all downhill from here... good luck!! Very nice machine...
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