Very cool project, I like it very much and I think it will look awesome when done.
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My Cylinder Shaver Project
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Re: My Cylinder Shaver Project
Fortunately, the TV stand is vintage 2005..Mr Grumpy wrote:Very cool project, I like it very much and I think it will look awesome when done.
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Re: My Cylinder Shaver Project
Question for those that own one of these. Is your machine fused and if so, where?
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Fuse? Fuse?? We don't need no stinkin' fuse!
Haha, just kidding.
But really though, none of my 4 shavers, nor my (2)
Dictaphone machines have fuses. All any of them have
is the wiring, the rheostat, the switch, and the motor.
I guess they figured that if it shorts out it'll blow
the fuse on the outlet circuit.
Not to worry....there's always plenty of warning with
most of this old stuff. It smokes and it smells funny
for quite a while before it goes POOF and the sparks fly.
Haha, just kidding.
But really though, none of my 4 shavers, nor my (2)
Dictaphone machines have fuses. All any of them have
is the wiring, the rheostat, the switch, and the motor.
I guess they figured that if it shorts out it'll blow
the fuse on the outlet circuit.
Not to worry....there's always plenty of warning with
most of this old stuff. It smokes and it smells funny
for quite a while before it goes POOF and the sparks fly.
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Great! One less thing to mess with. Getting close to slinging some swarf!
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Its alive! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXYB-8h ... e=youtu.be
I rigged a motor pulley until I can find an original. I took a collar and setscrew and epoxied washers to the outside of it. Seems to work fine for now.
I rigged a motor pulley until I can find an original. I took a collar and setscrew and epoxied washers to the outside of it. Seems to work fine for now.
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You did a nice job cleaning up and setting up your shaver. Here's a link to my Edison 1905 Business Shaver shaving a brown wax cylinder. It does an amazing job and I'm sure yours will also. Just make sure the cutter is good.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sxxkFY-yJys
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sxxkFY-yJys
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Here is a video of it in operation. Most of the swarf gets directed towards me instead of down the shoot. Is this normal or is there something I can do to redirect the swarf? Also, how far should the cutter stick out past the guard?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UDTmqG ... e=youtu.be
PS: before anyone says something, the black wax cylinder that I am practicing on was very moldy and was barely audible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UDTmqG ... e=youtu.be
PS: before anyone says something, the black wax cylinder that I am practicing on was very moldy and was barely audible.
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First of all, nice job on getting it running!
You've done that in record time, and very neatly as well.
Shaving black wax is a bad, bad deal for the cutter
depending upon what type of black wax it is.
Columbia black wax is a little softer than Edison's
2 minute Gold Moulded stuff. Basically those waxes had
hardeners added so they could stand up to lots of plays.
They are not really meant for shaving. My opinion of them
is that they might shave ok sort of, but they WILL
dull the cutter. Edison 4 minute wax is even harder.
Brown wax is about the only stuff except for
Dictaphone or Ediphone wax which can safely be shaved
without dulling the cutter.
As far as the chip chute, I only have one machine
out of the 4 shavers I own, on which the chip chute actually works properly. That's the one on my old Model
7 shaver shown working on my web site.
All of the others including the model 10 and the
(2) Cameo models have chip chutes which I could never
get working right.
The chip chute must be adjusted *insanely* close to
the blank in order for it to work. Adjustment is
very tricky.
For production shaving of large orders of blanks
I usually just run the shaver with cutter only, and leave the chip chute completely off.
I use a shop-vac with the narrow, long slanted attachment fastened to a 90 degree piece of old
radiator hose. I hold that vacuum cleaner attachment
up close to the shaver cutter but not touching it
as it glides across the blank. The vacuum cleaner
sucks up all the wax shavings so there's no mess.
Best of all, there's no wax shavings which stick to the blank, and come around and foul the cutter, messing
up a perfect cut.
The 90 degree old piece of radiator hose makes holding
the vacuum cleaner attachment much easier because
the hose to the shop-vac can lay down instead of
looping up then back down again.
As you are seeing for yourself, those chip-chutes can
be a royal PITA.
You've done that in record time, and very neatly as well.
Shaving black wax is a bad, bad deal for the cutter
depending upon what type of black wax it is.
Columbia black wax is a little softer than Edison's
2 minute Gold Moulded stuff. Basically those waxes had
hardeners added so they could stand up to lots of plays.
They are not really meant for shaving. My opinion of them
is that they might shave ok sort of, but they WILL
dull the cutter. Edison 4 minute wax is even harder.
Brown wax is about the only stuff except for
Dictaphone or Ediphone wax which can safely be shaved
without dulling the cutter.
As far as the chip chute, I only have one machine
out of the 4 shavers I own, on which the chip chute actually works properly. That's the one on my old Model
7 shaver shown working on my web site.
All of the others including the model 10 and the
(2) Cameo models have chip chutes which I could never
get working right.
The chip chute must be adjusted *insanely* close to
the blank in order for it to work. Adjustment is
very tricky.
For production shaving of large orders of blanks
I usually just run the shaver with cutter only, and leave the chip chute completely off.
I use a shop-vac with the narrow, long slanted attachment fastened to a 90 degree piece of old
radiator hose. I hold that vacuum cleaner attachment
up close to the shaver cutter but not touching it
as it glides across the blank. The vacuum cleaner
sucks up all the wax shavings so there's no mess.
Best of all, there's no wax shavings which stick to the blank, and come around and foul the cutter, messing
up a perfect cut.
The 90 degree old piece of radiator hose makes holding
the vacuum cleaner attachment much easier because
the hose to the shop-vac can lay down instead of
looping up then back down again.
As you are seeing for yourself, those chip-chutes can
be a royal PITA.
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for, and gaining, fundamental understanding"
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Re: My Cylinder Shaver Project
Thanks Chuck! I didnt know that about the black cylinders. Good to know. I'll play around with the cutter guard adjustment once I cut a brown cylinder.