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Electric cylinder machine project

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Hey guys,

I'm thinking about building an electric phono contraption; just for fun really. I was gonna try to find a bedplate with just the upper works, and put a motor with it, in a wood frame I'll build for it. . I found a few ediphone or ekonowatt motors and I have a question. Does anyone know what rpms these motors spin at? I'm unfamiliar with the ediphones and dictaphones, and was curious if anyone has done this. Is it as simple as lining it up and putting a belt on it and plugging it into the wall? I'd want to splice in a switch on the motor. Thanks for any input!
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You could just buy the Class M machine that is for sale on the board... OR if you really want to make one, check out this website: http://www.christerhamp.se/phono/index.html
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"The phonograph† is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.

"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
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Curt A wrote:You could just buy the Class M machine that is for sale on the board... OR if you really want to make one, check out this website: http://www.christerhamp.se/phono/index.html
Thanks! I'll check that out! And as beautiful and awesome as the M is, I don't think the family would be too happy with me paying 20k for another phono! :-P
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Basically I'll end up with something like an M actually. Was gonna put the ediphone motor underneath or in front with belt going to the bedplate.
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The first cylinder machine I ever bought was an Edison Home model E with electric motor. I don't think that the factory did that, but it seems like an older, maybe period, professional installation, maybe done by some jobber. Unfortunately it was packed without any padding and arrived badly smashed. I did not want to pay for return shipping, so I accepted a partial refund, because many parts are still OK. The whole experience bothered me so much that I still have it in the basement as it arrived, never got motivated enough to fix it. Anyway, please see below the original pictures from the ebay listing. Maybe it will help with your endeavor? The speed control is still taken care of by a governor.

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alang wrote:The first cylinder machine I ever bought was an Edison Home model E with electric motor. I don't think that the factory did that, but it seems like an older, maybe period, professional installation, maybe done by some jobber. Unfortunately it was packed without any padding and arrived badly smashed. I did not want to pay for return shipping, so I accepted a partial refund, because many parts are still OK. The whole experience bothered me so much that I still have it in the basement as it arrived, never got motivated enough to fix it. Anyway, please see below the original pictures from the ebay listing. Maybe it will help with your endeavor? The speed control is still taken care of by a governor.

Andreas

Now that is what I'm talking about! That's what I'm wanting to do (but will prolly make my own case so I don't tear up an original). You ever think of selling that one? Now I've seen some motors with that gov set up, and I've also seen some ediphone motors with no gov, which makes me wonder if their somehow internally governed. I wonder if I should buy an old ekonowatt with the gov already on it. Is there some rheostat that controls speed or is that some other kind of device underneath? (Big cylindrical thing).


Edit: Scratch that, I see how it works...basically speed control system as a wind up. Idk what I was looking at. Very interesting.
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The Ekonowatt motor from an Ediphone will do the job with one caveat: if the governor on the electric motor is adjusted so that the mandrel spins at 160 rpm it will overheat. The diameter of the mandrel pulley must be increased to at least 2 1\2 inches to allow the electric motor to run at it's design speed. This is the just what Edison did with their electric motor machines, such as the Alva.

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