Victor VV-50 from Santiago, Chile

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Victor VV-50 from Santiago, Chile

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ShopGoodwill is offering a Victrola VV-50 with a store label from Santiago Valparaiso, Chile. It is available as a pickup only in Ft Lauderdale, FL.

https://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewitem.a ... d=39547888

Has no reproducer.
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Re: Victor VV-50 from Santiago, Chile

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Final bid on this was $84.88 plus $3.00 handling charge.
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Re: Victor VV-50 from Santiago, Chile

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CDBPDX wrote:Final bid on this was $84.88 plus $3.00 handling charge.
That seems pretty low. I remember seeing the VV-50 and the VV-35 selling at much higher prices not too long ago.

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Re: Victor VV-50 from Santiago, Chile

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I can not tell if the I D label was originally on the inside. I suspect it was and someone moved it out to the lid.. Weird thing to do. $87.00 plus a reproducer is a reasonable cost. It does not show the whole case though and there could be more damage than displayed Neat dealer label though. Tom B

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Re: Victor VV-50 from Santiago, Chile

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Thanks Cliff for the local tip. Great deal and it did come with an incorrect but appropriate reproducer, loose sliding around in the horn along with the crank handle. Winds up and spins fine. The U-shaped part on the tonearm does not have a slot to work with a No. 2 reproducer. Will look into and compare with another VV-50 sometime soon. There's evidence the ID tag was moved from the original location.
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It looks like the reproducer was an upgrade. On the back of the reproducer, it looks like it says Chile. Now you need some Spanish and Tango to go with it.
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Re: Victor VV-50 from Santiago, Chile

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A great deal for an oak VV-50, usually $250-400 for oak ones. Plus, it comes with a Rothophonic reproducer... (interesting spelling to avoid legal issues) :roll:
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Victrola-Monkey wrote:Thanks Cliff for the local tip. Great deal and it did come with an incorrect but appropriate reproducer, loose sliding around in the horn along with the crank handle. Winds up and spins fine. The U-shaped part on the tonearm does not have a slot to work with a No. 2 reproducer. Will look into and compare with another VV-50 sometime soon. There's evidence the ID tag was moved from the original location.
Congratulations on a great score! Doesn't look like there is anything that can't be easily fixed. I wonder if the VV-50 phonographs were different for the South American market, maybe they wanted to use a more local reproducer so they made them without the slot to accommodate that..??

Sure would be interesting to know the history of this machine.

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Re: Victor VV-50 from Santiago, Chile

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I like that this VV-50 is from Chile with its dealer plate and its reproducer labeled as such. It's nice but I rather keep this reproducer to the side (along with its J-tube with no slot to lock-on it on) and utilize the correct No 2 reproducer (along with a J-tube with the necessary slot to lock-on the reproducer. It turns out that the J-tube on it is larger, where it enters the tonearm on this late model, than where it does on my earlier model all original VV-50. I then must ask:

Are the J-tubes interchangeable between early and late model VV-50s?

If not, what other models use the same "slightly larger" J-tube as the late model VV-50s? And... Do you have one that you could sell me?

And if so, where the J-tubes are interchangeable, then things are not good for me in that it would be likely that my great deal on this Chilean VV-50 turns out to have an non-original tonearm. I doubt this is the case, however.

I find that the early model J-tube is 0.703" and the "my later model" measures 0.750", where they enter the tonearm.
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Re: Victor VV-50 from Santiago, Chile

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If it were my machine, I would leave it as-is. As long as it plays loud and clear, why change the history of it? I think the J-Tube(Gooseneck)have been with this machine since day 1.
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