The attached part was found, not sure what it is from, Edison, Victrola etc. Does anyone know what it is off please.
Peter
Help to identify this part please
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Help to identify this part please
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Re: Help to identify this part please
Not US Victor, Edison, or Columbia for sure.
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Re: Help to identify this part please
I'm pretty sure it's a Thorens motor.
The one below is very similar, but not exactly the same.
Yours appears to have a hex head bolt in the spindle shaft hole, and some sort of pulley has been added to the worm gear of the governor shaft.
The adjustable governor bearings on yours look the same as what's used on many Garrard motors, but all the Garrard motors I've seen have either had half sphere governor weights, or elliptical balls attached to the underside of the governor springs, so my guess is yours is a slightly earlier Thorens than mine below.
If the speed control devise & governor leather is the same style as shown in the second picture below, then it's definately a Thorens, as Garrard used a slightly different set-up.
Thorens supplied parts for about ½ the machines made in Australia, and sometimes they branded their own motors & soundboxes with the name of the company using the parts, so this might explain the slight difference in the cast iron frame of your motor & that of mine. Often the only difference between a Thorens motor & a rebadged Thorens motor was slight differences in the casting, the size of bearings & gear shafts etc.
In all honesty, if that's all you've got of the motor, it probably isn't worth keeping, as the castings seldom break or get damaged, and the bearing holes seldom wear. Depending how the hex head bolt has been attached, it may have damaged the turntable spindle hole, which would render it useless unless you were to redrill & sleeve the hole.
If you're short on space & decide to chuck it, I'd just keep the speed control assembly & the governor, and all the screws & bearings that go with it. These are often inter-changable between motors, and it's always good to have a matched set of 3 weights & springs on hand, as they would fit many other brands of motors too.
The one below is very similar, but not exactly the same.
Yours appears to have a hex head bolt in the spindle shaft hole, and some sort of pulley has been added to the worm gear of the governor shaft.
The adjustable governor bearings on yours look the same as what's used on many Garrard motors, but all the Garrard motors I've seen have either had half sphere governor weights, or elliptical balls attached to the underside of the governor springs, so my guess is yours is a slightly earlier Thorens than mine below.
If the speed control devise & governor leather is the same style as shown in the second picture below, then it's definately a Thorens, as Garrard used a slightly different set-up.
Thorens supplied parts for about ½ the machines made in Australia, and sometimes they branded their own motors & soundboxes with the name of the company using the parts, so this might explain the slight difference in the cast iron frame of your motor & that of mine. Often the only difference between a Thorens motor & a rebadged Thorens motor was slight differences in the casting, the size of bearings & gear shafts etc.
In all honesty, if that's all you've got of the motor, it probably isn't worth keeping, as the castings seldom break or get damaged, and the bearing holes seldom wear. Depending how the hex head bolt has been attached, it may have damaged the turntable spindle hole, which would render it useless unless you were to redrill & sleeve the hole.
If you're short on space & decide to chuck it, I'd just keep the speed control assembly & the governor, and all the screws & bearings that go with it. These are often inter-changable between motors, and it's always good to have a matched set of 3 weights & springs on hand, as they would fit many other brands of motors too.
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Re: Help to identify this part please
Thanks guys, here is another angle, not real clear though.
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