How often do you find ITS (textbook) standard machines?

[Mormon S]

How often do you find these International Textbook Co standard phonographs. I have seen (and owned) ICS machine before but have never seen one of these. The ICS are usually on a model c, but this one is a model B with the banner decal. This seems very unusual to me. Any info?

[FellowCollector]

I've seen more of the ICS (International Correspondence School) Edison Standards versus ITC as you have here. The Edison Standard cabinet pictured sure looks like a banner model A to me as it appears shorter than a banner model B cabinet but maybe it's the camera angle.

Doug

[Mormon S]

I've seen more of the ICS (International Correspondence School) Edison Standards versus ITC as you have here. The Edison Standard cabinet pictured sure looks like a banner model A to me as it appears shorter than a banner model B cabinet but maybe it's the camera angle.

Doug

I don't own it but I'm thinking of buying it. Do ITS cylinders exist?

Martin

[Lucius1958]

Just checked my Standard B, and it does have the ITS label. (I've been referring to it as an ICS model before)...

Bill

[tomb]

The ITC /ICS phonographs have been around since the early standard A production. They were made in models A,B,C, And the rarer D standard. They are nice phonographs as you can drop the speed way down to play the ICS cylinders. I have a early ITS phonograph S/N 46882 so they started quite early. I do not know if they made a four clip standard ITS to play there correspondence cylinders. They put out many different classes besides language on the cylinders. Enjoy your phonograph. Tom

[martinola]

I did a double take on that ebay listing. While it has a nice case and bedplate, it's missing the motor, speed control knob, reproducer, crank and lid. While it's in a New style case as you would find on a model A, the bedplate and top works belong to a model B with 5 screws holding it to the frame. Also, the screws are the later Phillips type. This suggests that this was cobbled together at a much later date. ITS machines are less common than the later ICS machines, but they do turn up fairly frequently. Personally, I'd hold off until a better example comes along.

Regards,
Martin

[Jerry B.]

I did a double take on that ebay listing. While it has a nice case and bedplate, it's missing the motor, speed control knob, reproducer, crank and lid. While it's in a New style case as you would find on a model A, the bedplate and top works belong to a model B with 5 screws holding it to the frame. Also, the screws are the later Phillips type. This suggests that this was cobbled together at a much later date. ITS machines are less common than the later ICS machines, but they do turn up fairly frequently. Personally, I'd hold off until a better example comes along.

Regards,
Martin

The above excellent advice comes from THE authority on Edison Standards. Jerry Blais

[MTPhono]

Here is my first cylinder machine - an ICS Edison Standard Model D.

[Mormon S]

I did a double take on that ebay listing. While it has a nice case and bedplate, it's missing the motor, speed control knob, reproducer, crank and lid. While it's in a New style case as you would find on a model A, the bedplate and top works belong to a model B with 5 screws holding it to the frame. Also, the screws are the later Phillips type. This suggests that this was cobbled together at a much later date. ITS machines are less common than the later ICS machines, but they do turn up fairly frequently. Personally, I'd hold off until a better example comes along.

Regards,
Martin

Well they increased the price of the listing. If it were more of a hard to find machine I would have waited to find a cheap model B with a junk case to use for as a donor motor and lid. I think I'll wait for one with a better bed plate.

Martin

[FellowCollector]

While it's in a New style case as you would find on a model A, the bedplate and top works belong to a model B with 5 screws holding it to the frame.

I'm confused I think, Martin.

The bed plate on this appears to have a hole for the speed control (see picture) which would make the bed plate and upper works for an Edison Standard model A (like the one here:
https://www.intertique.com/EdisonNewSty ... DDemo.html on Lynn Bilton's web page) unless I'm missing something here.

All of the Edison Standard model B's I own and I've seen have no hole for the speed control. It looks to me like this is a banner Edison Standard model A without the motor, reproducer, crank and horn but with the ITC (International Textbook Company) tag (and the ICS parts) and modern bed plate screws. Is it because this has the 5 bed plate screws that makes this a model B Standard bed plate and upper works?

Thanks,
Doug