My New Edison A & N

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Re: My New Edison A & N

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Note: serial #is 1967
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Re: My New Edison A & N

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I see someone saved the cleat from your machine's playing compartment. That was lucky! Here's how it was mounted with a lanyard to secure the horn (click images twice to enlarge):
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Here's the interior of the little maintenance box, with a small jar of Edison Grease, a tall jar of graphite, and a 2-piece oil can. In the back (not shown in this view) is an extra mainspring mounted to the floor:
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Have fun cleaning up your Army/Navy, and enjoy it!

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Re: My New Edison A & N

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Thanks, George. I wondered where that cleat belonged. I now see how the crank is stowed as well.

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Good find never can tell wen your wishes will be granted. Tom

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Re: My New Edison A & N

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LOL...What's that Cylinder in the box? It looks like an Albany Indestructible....lol..

Just curious!

:o)

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NEFaurora wrote:LOL...What's that Cylinder in the box? It looks like an Albany Indestructible....lol..

Just curious!

:o)

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Tony, I didn't understand this question yesterday, and decided that maybe you were commenting on a different thread and accidentally posted here somehow.

Because no one familiar with the common Edison grease jars (or an Edison Disc Phonograph horn) could think the object next to it was really a cylinder record, could they? Especially when the contents of the little box had been described next to its picture?

But why would a cylinder record be kept in the bottom of an Edison Army/Navy? Maybe that accounted for all the LOLs... I'm still puzzled.

But just in case you're as puzzled as I am...
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I hope this helps clear up the mystery "cylinder." As mentioned in the earlier picture's caption, it's a jar of graphite.

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Sorry, I must have missed this post. I've recently acquired two A&N's! I had one of the motors gone through and the other didn't need any work for some reason. Looks like your A&N is in good shape compared to how some of them look. Too bad you are missing the grille as that's an important and difficult to find part. I'm missing a grille too as well as the front door. I'm attempting to make another door using my existing door as a model. One of my A&N's had most of the hardware shipped from it. Luckily, Van Dyke's sold the correct side handles for $7 each! And I think I've found a good facsimile for the front door pull. That's a good idea to compile all of the existing serial numbers. I'll post mine tomorrow. Marc.

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Here are the serial numbers from my two Army & Navy machines: 1429 (this is the one that did service on the front line at FH351) and 1445. I wonder what the first serial number would be, 500? Another question I have about these machines that no one has mentioned is did they come with grille cloth? Some pics show them with grille cloth, but I can't discern whether this was original or someone's later add on. I notice something on your A&N that is different from others I have seen. Your hasp is a simple latch with a loop, whereas the others that I've seen are a long pull that pries into a slot for a tight pressure fit for the lid. I don't know if yours is original or a later add on.
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Re: My New Edison A & N

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marcapra wrote:Here are the serial numbers from my two Army & Navy machines: 1429 (this is the one that did service on the front line at FH351) and 1445. I wonder what the first serial number would be, 500?
Marc, all other Edison Disc Phonographs had their own serial blocks starting with #1. I'd be surprised if Edison adopted the Victor practice of starting at #500 for this particular style.
marcapra wrote: Another question I have about these machines that no one has mentioned is did they come with grille cloth? Some pics show them with grille cloth, but I can't discern whether this was original or someone's later add on.
The A&N was originally supplied with grille cloth. My observations lead me to believe that the pumpkin-colored cloth was original. My unrestored example has the same color cloth (click the image twice to enlarge):
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marcapra wrote:I notice something on your A&N that is different from others I have seen. Your hasp is a simple latch with a loop, whereas the others that I've seen are a long pull that pries into a slot for a tight pressure fit for the lid. I don't know if yours is original or a later add on.
The hasp you show in your last post is original. The OP's hasp is a replacement, as the marks made by the original hardware can be seen near the "Edison" marking above the grille opening.

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Re: My New Edison A & N

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I’m building reproduction grills as we speak and also am selling the reproduction booklets and jars of graphite.

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