Did Columbia ever manufacture a portable model 101 ?

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Re: Did Columbia ever manufacture a portable model 101 ?

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Thanks for that, Tom. I will look forward to that, if you can find some photos. Thank you also to Roger and everyone else having an opinion on this portable. I will myself also get some more photos of this machine tomorrow, so maybe it can be finally decided what kind of machine it is. If it not then is a generic machine with less characteristics and small general interest.

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I have received these three additional photos. The motorboard under the platter, the inner lining of the top lid, and also a photo of the back side of the platter. I upload them all. If someone have something to tell the lady I am in touch with about this gramophone, she will be happy. Myself I have no clue, since I so far I have not opened other portables than HMVs, so I am not of much help (yet). If there is not much to say, I guess it is just a generic portable, with no characteristics or identity, and will return to her with that information.
...to me it looks...generic, but I will be happy to be proven wrong
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I have a Parlophon which is the same size and you will find that there is a door where the left lid catch is that opens on the horn which runs from the tone arm fitting on the left hand side at the lid end.This (the horn)is where the tone arm is carried when not in use.
As on my machine there is a recess in the motorboard where the Soundbox is carried on the right of the arm fixing.

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Re: Did Columbia ever manufacture a portable model 101 ?

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I am at a loss on this one.. One of our other experts will have to step in. Does it have a door in the front or side. for storage or is that tone arm just disconnected and laying on the phonograph. If it has a door for storage I do not think it is a generic phonograph but someone else would have to identify it. I have one with a storage door on the side but not as nice as this one. Tom

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Thank you for all good suggestions and help. I have now emailed the young lady, and asked her to check if there is a storage compartment/door at any sides of the gramophone. I hav also asked if the soundbox is randomly put on the inner right side of the gramophone, or if there is a recess for placing the soundbox at this spot. I hope this answer will tell if it is a generic gramophone or not, even if she/we will never get a good answer to why a note from her now deceased father was inside the gramophone telling it was a Columbia 101.
Update: It has a compartment door on the left hand side, close to the tonearm entrance, that is where the lady found the soundbox, and also later the tonearm when I told her the tonearm was missing on her first photos. There is no recess for the soundbox, it was randomly put on the inner right hand side when taking the photos.
I must say this is a brave young woman. She know nothing about gramophones, and tomorrow she has said she will, when I am advicing her through email, open the motor and take photos, so we can see what motor is inside the gramophone. That is something ! It took myself longer time to open my first portable:;)

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Once again, so far not even a single part of this machine looks as if it had anything to do with Columbia.

Her father's note in my opinion possibly means that he was cheated by a dishonest seller, or perhaps that he bought it from someone who knew less than he did.

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I think the motor is a Steidinger, judging by the speed control and it's indicator plate. They later became Dual, which may be a clue. We'll know for certain when we get a photo of the motor.

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Yes, Marco, I know we know can forget this is a Columbia gramophone, the way she has described the gramophone, and also how it looks inside, bears no resemblance to a Columbia portable. I don't think it was bad intention behind the written note inside the gramophone, someone probably just was wrong identifying it at some stage, since it has been in the same family for decades.
Now it is more about trying to help the young lady identifying the model since she shows so big interest in trying to identify it ( if we can), and even learn a bit ourselves in the process.;) It is not everyday a young lady with no experience is trying to open a portable, so let us cross our fingers she is able to do it, and will send me some photos of the motor. It will anyway be quite interesting to see if someone in here can identify it, if it turns out to be a non generic gramophone. Maybe we also are igniting a spark in this young lady, that she is getting interested in keeping the gramophone, and even start using it after some guidance. It would be nice:)

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Sadly my days of igniting sparks in young ladies are long gone :cry: .

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Now the young lady has sent me photos of the motor. She has opened the case, and removed the motor, vow!
And, most important, without me mentioning it she told in the email today
that she maybe not would sell it, since she now had started to get an interest in the gramophone herself!
Exactly as I had hoped for, (and also mentioned here on the forum a few days ago). I now cross my fingers that someone can help
identifying her portable ( if it is not a generic machine) , so I can fulfil this mission:)
I can see the "S" logo on the motor, something tells me Barry (Phono48) may have been correct with his Steidinger comment:)
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