HMV 202?

[Steve]

Yes, it is (or was!) a 202, but it has been severely mucked about. The legs have been shortened, the door hinges have been replaced, but worst of all, the original motor has been replaced. Personally, I wouldn't touch it.

Barry

I'm not sure why you think it's been re-motored? It clearly has the motor plate, lubrication lever and speed control for the no. 52 motor.

[Phono48]

Whoops! A friend has a 202 with an entirely different motor, and assured me that no other type was ever fitted. I should have checked with the HMV "bible" before leaping in! Sorry for any confusion caused.

[Inigo]

The early models 193/4 and 202/3 came with the standard 4-spring motor no34, same as the last big Victor motor. That was the range of new motors of 1921. There's also the no32 with two springs, and a smaller single spring unit (don't know the number). These three shared a very similar frame. The biggest no34 was fitted to all big hmv models from 1921 on.
Later models 193/4 and 202/3 (don't know when started) carried the no52 'oil bath motor', as seen in the pictures of this machine, which is indeed a very different motor. Maybe your friend had the no34 type.
I don't know if this oil bath no52 was also fitted to the later consoles and uprights of the early thirties, models 152, 153 and 158.

[Steve]

Inigo, as far as I'm aware the motor change happened in 1929. I also don't think any other standard modeis were fitted with it.

I have possibly a unique Indian machine fitted with the motor but these oddities are extremely rare.