Value of a victor vv7-25?
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- Victor Jr
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Value of a victor vv7-25?
I found a victrola in my grandfathers garage and it is the model vv7-25. does anybody know a value of one of these? had to purchase a new reproducer from George Voellma. now it plays so good. Are these things rare? whats the value?
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- Victor VI
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Re: Value of a victor vv7-25?
The Victor-Victrola Page lists your machine here. It is quite rare, containing (as you see) a radio & a phonograph. The lever near the brake & speed controls manually changes the functions from radio to Victrola mode--there should be a valve in the horn. (If I am right, this is one of the radios that plays through the Orthophonic Horn of the Victrola.)
It looks like yours is the regular crank model. If it were the VE-7-25 then it would have an electric motor for the records.
I don't know about valuable these days but you have an amazing piece. Do you plan to sell it or just kick back and enjoy some 1920s-style listening? Repairing the radio and using a small AM microtransmitter will let you stream modern music into it, or online radio from Radio Dismuke (all 20s and 30s all the time.)
As long as you change the needle every record and do the usual servicing to bring it back to full factory specs it should be ready to play for a hundred years.
Beautiful Victrola and welcome to the Talking Machine Forum!
http://victor-victrola.com/7-25.htm
It looks like yours is the regular crank model. If it were the VE-7-25 then it would have an electric motor for the records.
I don't know about valuable these days but you have an amazing piece. Do you plan to sell it or just kick back and enjoy some 1920s-style listening? Repairing the radio and using a small AM microtransmitter will let you stream modern music into it, or online radio from Radio Dismuke (all 20s and 30s all the time.)
As long as you change the needle every record and do the usual servicing to bring it back to full factory specs it should be ready to play for a hundred years.
Beautiful Victrola and welcome to the Talking Machine Forum!
http://victor-victrola.com/7-25.htm
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- Victor II
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Re: Value of a victor vv7-25?
Always nice to have a family piece willschettler!
Unless I'm mistaken, I have the same exact model--- right down to the missing, two, front doors! Major missing parts don't help the value any...
Enjoy the wonderful sound!!!
Unless I'm mistaken, I have the same exact model--- right down to the missing, two, front doors! Major missing parts don't help the value any...
Enjoy the wonderful sound!!!
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- Victor Jr
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Re: Value of a victor vv7-25?
I do have the doors. they need new hinges and the door knobs need repairs. Thanks for the kind words!Pathé Logical wrote:Always nice to have a family piece willschettler!
Unless I'm mistaken, I have the same exact model--- right down to the missing, two, front doors! Major missing parts don't help the value any...
Enjoy the wonderful sound!!!
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- Victor Jr
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Re: Value of a victor vv7-25?
Yeah everything on the cabinet works, but the manual control lever doesn;t work properly. I believe that the valve in the back is all swolen up because it was made out of pot metal. Also, the radio has no power cord. That's the only thing that needs repairs. Thanks for the kind words!VanEpsFan1914 wrote:The Victor-Victrola Page lists your machine here. It is quite rare, containing (as you see) a radio & a phonograph. The lever near the brake & speed controls manually changes the functions from radio to Victrola mode--there should be a valve in the horn. (If I am right, this is one of the radios that plays through the Orthophonic Horn of the Victrola.)
It looks like yours is the regular crank model. If it were the VE-7-25 then it would have an electric motor for the records.
I don't know about valuable these days but you have an amazing piece. Do you plan to sell it or just kick back and enjoy some 1920s-style listening? Repairing the radio and using a small AM microtransmitter will let you stream modern music into it, or online radio from Radio Dismuke (all 20s and 30s all the time.)
As long as you change the needle every record and do the usual servicing to bring it back to full factory specs it should be ready to play for a hundred years.
Beautiful Victrola and welcome to the Talking Machine Forum!
http://victor-victrola.com/7-25.htm
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- Victor VI
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Re: Value of a victor vv7-25?
You'll need to talk to a guy on here who goes by Victrola-Monkey. He can probably help you with that potmetal valve if anyone can--he restores Electrolas and is very good at having runs of potmetal parts reproduced in long-lasting brass.
The Radiola 17 should be a straightforward rebuild by literally any old radio repairman, but it won't work right without a long antenna hung up, and probably a ground connection to help it with fidelity. I have a radio from 1929 that won't play well unless you hook it to about 5 to 75 feet of wire. Right now there's a mess of wire running across the top of the back yard...and the old radio is not even hooked up.
Betcha someone here could set you up with some door knobs for it.
The Radiola 17 should be a straightforward rebuild by literally any old radio repairman, but it won't work right without a long antenna hung up, and probably a ground connection to help it with fidelity. I have a radio from 1929 that won't play well unless you hook it to about 5 to 75 feet of wire. Right now there's a mess of wire running across the top of the back yard...and the old radio is not even hooked up.
Betcha someone here could set you up with some door knobs for it.
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Re: Value of a victor vv7-25?
Willschettler, You have a very nice example of the VV 7-25. You should be very proud to have such an antique that represents your family’s and early intertainment history. The value ranges greatly, condition and operation is key. My guess on value would be between $200-$700. The high end would be hard to get in this current market however.
As VanEpsFan1914 has stated, I have had a decent amount of experience on the valve section of Victor’s combination radio/phonographs. However it has been with only specific models which unfortunately did not involve your model. See the following link. Also the new replacement parts I have been involved in for these valves have only dealt with its external gears. Not all the models with valves use gears. I am not familiar with what your model’s valve looks like.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38803
I do have some tips however... When the valve does not freely move, certainly don’t force it. Hopefully your valve is stuck in the phonograph position, which would allow the acoustical sound to flow freely from the tonearm to the horn. I personally would not bother with the valve unless the radio and the horn driver is operational. Nonetheless, to get your valve working may not be too difficult. First I would hope for the least involvement fix by removing the tone arm and applying some penetrating oil down into the valve. Maybe tap the valve casing, let time pass and then see if that does it. It probably won’t. The next step would be to carefully remove the valve and try to dismantle it. There should be a barrel that rotates within the assembly. Though it may be not able to rotate, it should be able to be worked out of the assembly. Then lightly sand the barrel and the surface it slides on. Do this until the barrel rotates freely when placed back into the assembly.
The following eBay link is of a similar model:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 2371302846
The eBay link below is of a valve the seller tried selling many times but I don’t think he ever sold it. You mightwant to ask if it’s still available and if it works. If it is like yours and available but doesn’t work, maybe you might want to buy it and see if you can get it to work before messing with yours.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 4143742785
Good luck.
As VanEpsFan1914 has stated, I have had a decent amount of experience on the valve section of Victor’s combination radio/phonographs. However it has been with only specific models which unfortunately did not involve your model. See the following link. Also the new replacement parts I have been involved in for these valves have only dealt with its external gears. Not all the models with valves use gears. I am not familiar with what your model’s valve looks like.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38803
I do have some tips however... When the valve does not freely move, certainly don’t force it. Hopefully your valve is stuck in the phonograph position, which would allow the acoustical sound to flow freely from the tonearm to the horn. I personally would not bother with the valve unless the radio and the horn driver is operational. Nonetheless, to get your valve working may not be too difficult. First I would hope for the least involvement fix by removing the tone arm and applying some penetrating oil down into the valve. Maybe tap the valve casing, let time pass and then see if that does it. It probably won’t. The next step would be to carefully remove the valve and try to dismantle it. There should be a barrel that rotates within the assembly. Though it may be not able to rotate, it should be able to be worked out of the assembly. Then lightly sand the barrel and the surface it slides on. Do this until the barrel rotates freely when placed back into the assembly.
The following eBay link is of a similar model:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 2371302846
The eBay link below is of a valve the seller tried selling many times but I don’t think he ever sold it. You mightwant to ask if it’s still available and if it works. If it is like yours and available but doesn’t work, maybe you might want to buy it and see if you can get it to work before messing with yours.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 4143742785
Good luck.
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Re: Value of a victor vv7-25?
Just to offer an additional input on value, the eBay link below shows someone that has the similar model VV 7-10 at a price of $99 or best offer as a nice looking empty cabinet. Of course the final sale price is more indicative of value than a listed price.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 4044371613
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 4044371613
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- Victor Jr
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Re: Value of a victor vv7-25?
Yes. the 7-10 is very similar to the 7-25. I think I am going to look into doing what you suggested with the oil in the valve. Thanks for your input!Victrola-Monkey wrote:Just to offer an additional input on value, the eBay link below shows someone that has the similar model VV 7-10 at a price of $99 or best offer as a nice looking empty cabinet. Of course the final sale price is more indicative of value than a listed price.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 4044371613