Coloring grain filler with oil paint?

[Mormon S]

I found a thread on a woodworking forum where someone said they had excellent results using oil paint and pore-o-pac grain filler to get the color they wanted. Has anyone tried this or know if this would work?

Thanks
Martin

[mick_vt]

Considering you normally set it's color with oil based wood stain I cannot see why not

[phonogfp]

I've done it with excellent results.

George P.

[EarlH]

You can also get pigment powder to tint your grain filler as well. It depends on how dark you are going to stain your cabinet afterwords as the paint will sometimes darken the wood. I've had better luck with pigments not doing that. I've also gotten the paint store here in town to tint the filler, and that works quite well also. But it's also about the same as oil paint. It is just a lot more concentrated so it doesn't add as much volume. Good luck with your project now, Earl

[JerryVan]

I'm assuming that after you fill the grain, you'll sand the cabinet, then apply stain, then finish. Why won't the same stain that your putting on the cabinet after sanding, color the filler as well? In my opinion, one of the biggest refinishing mistakes, is to not re-stain a cabinet prior to applying finish. It brings back color and depth that the years have faded and weathered away.

[Mormon S]

I'm assuming that after you fill the grain, you'll sand the cabinet, then apply stain, then finish. Why won't the same stain that your putting on the cabinet after sanding, color the filler as well? In my opinion, one of the biggest refinishing mistakes, is to not re-stain a cabinet prior to applying finish. It brings back color and depth that the years have faded and weathered away.

What I had in mind was:
Stain > sealer coat of shellac > grain filler > build shellac finish.

Would this not work just fine or better since none of the grain filler would stain or be soaked up by the wood?

Martin

[JerryVan]

I'm assuming that after you fill the grain, you'll sand the cabinet, then apply stain, then finish. Why won't the same stain that your putting on the cabinet after sanding, color the filler as well? In my opinion, one of the biggest refinishing mistakes, is to not re-stain a cabinet prior to applying finish. It brings back color and depth that the years have faded and weathered away.

What I had in mind was:
Stain > sealer coat of shellac > grain filler > build shellac finish.

Would this not work just fine or better since none of the grain filler would stain or be soaked up by the wood?

Martin

I would do the filler first, then sand to get it all even and to remove any filler not actually in the grain. Then stain. What's wrong with the grain filler being "soaked up" by the wood. I believe that's how it's meant to work. The filler really isn't so liquid that it will actually soak in, just fill the voids, and the color is usually neutral, so that it can be colored by the stain. That way, you use one common stain and not need to color match. Besides, I'm wouldn't be a bit certain that the filler will adhere to the shellac.

[Mormon S]

I'm assuming that after you fill the grain, you'll sand the cabinet, then apply stain, then finish. Why won't the same stain that your putting on the cabinet after sanding, color the filler as well? In my opinion, one of the biggest refinishing mistakes, is to not re-stain a cabinet prior to applying finish. It brings back color and depth that the years have faded and weathered away.

What I had in mind was:
Stain > sealer coat of shellac > grain filler > build shellac finish.

Would this not work just fine or better since none of the grain filler would stain or be soaked up by the wood?

Martin

I would do the filler first, then sand to get it all even and to remove any filler not actually in the grain. Then stain. What's wrong with the grain filler being "soaked up" by the wood. I believe that's how it's meant to work. The filler really isn't so liquid that it will actually soak in, just fill the voids, and the color is usually neutral, so that it can be colored by the stain. That way, you use one common stain and not need to color match. Besides, I'm wouldn't be a bit certain that the filler will adhere to the shellac.

When using colors darker than the wood to highlight the grain, any filler that could soak into the wood could be bad. Ill obviously have to do some test pieces with different methods first and see how it goes, I have seen some people recommending both ways.

Thanks
Martin

[JerryVan]

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