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andyjon100
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Re: What is this?
Thank you for the history lesson! I just watched a Youtube video by Musicboxboy comparing the early and late Standard Model A's, and this looks to be the scarcer, and by his description better, late production redesign. I've left a message with the seller... I'm getting really excited! My first (and probably only), open horn looks like it will be a decent one!
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Curt A
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Re: What is this?
"Also, it has been mentioned the horn may have been repainted. Thoughts?"
If the repaint looks OK in person, then you might want to opt for leaving it as is... However, if it's a crude repaint that is not aesthetically pleasing, then you can't hurt it by stripping it and repainting it yourself... Original Standard horns were either red or blue with gold striping - the gold didn't extend onto the petals quite as far as the picture indicates and there were no flowers... You should be able to find pictures of original horns in both colors. If the machine operates without issues, I think you have a winner for a reasonable cost, and if there is a problem parts are not too hard to find.
Good luck,
Curt
If the repaint looks OK in person, then you might want to opt for leaving it as is... However, if it's a crude repaint that is not aesthetically pleasing, then you can't hurt it by stripping it and repainting it yourself... Original Standard horns were either red or blue with gold striping - the gold didn't extend onto the petals quite as far as the picture indicates and there were no flowers... You should be able to find pictures of original horns in both colors. If the machine operates without issues, I think you have a winner for a reasonable cost, and if there is a problem parts are not too hard to find.
Good luck,
Curt
"The phonograph is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
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JerryVan
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Re: What is this?
Just a guess, but I don't think the horn was repainted, exactly. I believe the ends of the petals got an over paint of extra wide gold paint and that flower decals were added.
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Dave D
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Re: What is this?
A weak point of these motors is the governor drive gear. They often fail, but the good news is replacements are available. If the motor is not working well, it may be that this gear is the fault.
Dave D
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GoCOOGS!
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Re: What is this?
So.. did you ever pick it up? I picked one up in December and I LOVE it! I bought the turntable adapter so I use it for regular and standard 78s.
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Lucius1958
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Re: What is this?
Correction: it was Guido d'Arezzo, aka Guido Aretinus (ca. 995 - 1049?), who reformed musical notation.JohnM wrote: Footnote: Pietro Aretino (1492-1556) developed the solfeggio scale — do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti-do
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Henry
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Re: What is this?
Actually, the system of Guido, known as the Guidonian Hand, was based on a series of overlapping hexachords (six-note scales), ut-re-mi-fa-sol-la. The lowest note ("ut") was represented by the Greek letter gamma, thus gamut ( = gamma + ut ) for the entire system. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guidonian_hand.
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Curt A
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Re: What is this?
Now, I am confused... "What Is This"? I thought this thread was about a Standard Model A... 
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"The phonograph is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
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Curt A
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Re: What is this?
Andyjon100 - Did you ever get this machine?
"The phonograph is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
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Lucius1958
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Re: What is this?
A little sidetrack: Aretino marines were mentioned, and we went into historical footnotes.Curt A wrote:Now, I am confused... "What Is This"? I thought this thread was about a Standard Model A...
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