I’m still in the process of removing the finish from my 210 (I had no other options, the machine was in the rain at one point)
What is the best stain/ dye to use for a Mahoney cabinet?
The only part I am leaving is the underside of the lid, it’s almost perfect
What stain to use for Brunswick 210?
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Re: What stain to use for Brunswick 210?
A Mahoney cabinet??!! Sounds like you have a unique item there!
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Re: What stain to use for Brunswick 210?
Is the Brunswick 210 not a Mahogany cabinet? I may be mistaken on the type of wood 
EDIT: I did a quick search and another forum member posted about his awhile back. This is a walnut cabinet?
either way I would like to know what stain to use to achieve the original color
EDIT: I did a quick search and another forum member posted about his awhile back. This is a walnut cabinet?
either way I would like to know what stain to use to achieve the original color
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Re: What stain to use for Brunswick 210?
What is the best stain/ dye to use for a Mahoney cabinet?
David,
I think you meant mahogany cabinet... The best color is mahogany, probably brown mahogany, red mahogany is probably too red. You might have to experiment and mix it (red & brown). Whatever type of wood it is, the original stain appears to be mahogany...
Curt
David,
I think you meant mahogany cabinet... The best color is mahogany, probably brown mahogany, red mahogany is probably too red. You might have to experiment and mix it (red & brown). Whatever type of wood it is, the original stain appears to be mahogany...
Curt
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Re: What stain to use for Brunswick 210?
It's hard to tell exactly what type of wood that is from a picture. The inside of the lid looks like mahogany, but the outside looks like something else. Honduran mahogany has a tight, even grain, but there are various types of mahogany which makes the ID a little harder...
Here is a good resource: https://www.wood-database.com/wood-finder/
You should also GOOGLE "Stain Guide" to see online samples of wood stain colors. It's important to know the brand of stain you are using and look up their color chart, because stain colors vary between manufacturers. You might want to take a piece of your cabinet with its original finish and go to Lowe's or Home Depot to see their stain samples on actual wood. That way you can compare what you have to what they have... Also, keep in mind that the wood you stripped and sanded down to bare wood, is going to stain differently than just doing a touch up. So, to get a color close to your original which has aged over 100 years, you might need to make different choices based on the color samples and you might have to mix them to get close.
Here is another helpful site:
https://www.wood-finishes-direct.com/bl ... od-expert/
I'm sure there are others associated with the woodworking community...
Here is a good resource: https://www.wood-database.com/wood-finder/
You should also GOOGLE "Stain Guide" to see online samples of wood stain colors. It's important to know the brand of stain you are using and look up their color chart, because stain colors vary between manufacturers. You might want to take a piece of your cabinet with its original finish and go to Lowe's or Home Depot to see their stain samples on actual wood. That way you can compare what you have to what they have... Also, keep in mind that the wood you stripped and sanded down to bare wood, is going to stain differently than just doing a touch up. So, to get a color close to your original which has aged over 100 years, you might need to make different choices based on the color samples and you might have to mix them to get close.
Here is another helpful site:
https://www.wood-finishes-direct.com/bl ... od-expert/
I'm sure there are others associated with the woodworking community...
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Re: What stain to use for Brunswick 210?
That was a typo
I wrote this message quickly before my online class.
I’ll give the brown mahogany a shot!
I’ll give the brown mahogany a shot!
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Re: What stain to use for Brunswick 210?
I figured as much. Thanks for the (unintended) humor---not too much of that around these days.
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Re: What stain to use for Brunswick 210?
See my edited post above...dzavracky wrote:That was a typoI wrote this message quickly before my online class.
I’ll give the brown mahogany a shot!
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Re: What stain to use for Brunswick 210?
It's difficult to judge the color of the inside of the lid given the glare from the light or flash. It probably looks different in person.
I agree that just plain mahogany stain would probably be too red. I doubt that you will be able to find a ready mixed stain that matches as well as you'd like. You will need to experiment with mixing various colors. Plus the stain will look different once the clear finish is applied. You may not be able to find a perfect match at a big box store with their limited selections. You may have to venture into a woodworking supply store that sells specialty products. I have had success with TransTint dyes sold at places like Woodcraft.
The samples in the stores can help to a certain extent, but they are often only applied to one or 2 types of wood (oak or pine, etc.). Plus, the samples don't take into account how long you let the stain soak in before wiping off. It will help with color hue, but may or may not help with intensity or how dark the stain will be in your situation.
I agree that just plain mahogany stain would probably be too red. I doubt that you will be able to find a ready mixed stain that matches as well as you'd like. You will need to experiment with mixing various colors. Plus the stain will look different once the clear finish is applied. You may not be able to find a perfect match at a big box store with their limited selections. You may have to venture into a woodworking supply store that sells specialty products. I have had success with TransTint dyes sold at places like Woodcraft.
The samples in the stores can help to a certain extent, but they are often only applied to one or 2 types of wood (oak or pine, etc.). Plus, the samples don't take into account how long you let the stain soak in before wiping off. It will help with color hue, but may or may not help with intensity or how dark the stain will be in your situation.
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Re: What stain to use for Brunswick 210?
Okay! I guess I will just strip and sand the cabinet and wait till this quarantine is over to go get the stain/dye.